repower

awthacker

awthacker

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Sorry for this post. It feels kinda amateurish, but I'm seriously considering a new outboard for the repower. I haven't been able to find any carbed 2-strokes at good value. I think I would ultimately want a 4-stroke (or something more efficient) anyway, with gas prices going the way they are.

I'm shopping 150 HPs. I've researched the E-Tecs (approx $12,500 completely rigged) and Suzuki EFIs ($14,000). I don't think I'm interested in a Yamaha or Merc, but I'd definitely like some opinions and feedback on all of the new engines.

Or, I'd also love to find an older 2-stroke for a good price. The problem is that I need new controls and gauges, too. I'm kinda thinking why buy everything now set up for carbed 2-stroke, then repower in 3-5 years. Would've been a big waste. The other problem with a used engine is that I'm not mechanically savvy enough to do it myself. I'd still have to pay to have it mounted and rigged.

Thanks,
Aaron
 
Price, warranty and local shop quality were the decision points for me.

I repowered with Merc at a great price, with 5 year warranty and the local shop is reputable with Merc. In addition there are a lot of other Merc shops in my area that are good.
 
Have you tried pricing a SUZUKI 140HP? Also the YAMAHA 150HP would be a good choice. I would shy away from the VERADOS due to weight. The 150 or 175 ETEC would be a good repower option as well as a 150 OPTIMAX. The SUZUKI 140HP should be able to be had for a decent price I would think as a few years back you could get one fro $8K + rigging and controls.
 
You feel like taking a chance on a 1984 Evinrude 150hp 20" shaft, fuel mix?
It had minor detonation on the #6 cylinder, #1, 2, 3, 5, 6 cylinders have 90psi, #4 has 89psi, same as when I bought it.
Got no controls, prop or harness, takes the red plug harness.
 
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$ stroke is nice but these boats are not good for the weight! I go with a Etec if new or anything with low hours in the 2 stroke 150 to 175, thee are lots of good ones out there
 
A new Four stroke new is going to take a long long time to pay for itself even if gas does hit $5.00 a gallon. There are lots of nice two strokes on the market right now if you look. Especially the larger V-6 motors. A few months back I bought a like brand new 94 Merc 150 from a guy that went to the boat show and drank the four stroke kool aid. Motor looks like it has 15 hours on it. When asked why he would even buy a new motor he just said the new ones were more reliable. Asked if he ever had a problem with his merc, answer no it was just getting old and he was worried it would soon break. Gotta love it.

Brian
 
tsubaki said:
You feel like taking a chance on a 1984 Evinrude 150hp 20" shaft, fuel mix?
It had minor detonation on the #6 cylinder, #1, 2, 3, 5, 6 cylinders have 90psi, #4 has 89psi, same as when I bought it.
Got no controls, prop or harness, takes the red plug harness.
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Would you run offshore in the 10-25 mile range with that motor? If so, what would you want for it? If I bring the boat up on a saturday morning, any chance I could get you to help me rig it up? Pretty sure I have that red plug harness from my old 1984 Evinrude 185HP.
 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EVIN...9789147QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear

Found this in Jupiter on Ebay. Ferm, would you pretty much feel the same on this as you did the 1990?
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That one there is a GOOD engine, and if it checks out I wouldn't hesitate to jump on it(but I think his price is on the high end, $1500 sounds more like where it should be). If you're looking for an old school 2 stroker with carbs, I would look at the 135/150 MERCURY 2.0L, YAMAHA 150/175's, JOHNSON/EVINRUDE 150/175 60 degree loopers, and the JOHNSON/EVINRUDE 130/140 90 degree loopers. Parts for teh JOHNSON/EVINRUDES do tend to be cheaper and widely available followed by MERCURY and then YAMAHA. The MERCURY 2.0L is an excellent engine, and I believe is a perfect match for a V-20 if your not out ot set nay speed records. If you want to set the water on fire though, a 2.5L MERCURY 200HP or even the 3.0L MERCURY would do just that. And the 200/225 JOHNSON/EVINRUDE 90 degree loopers will also get a V-20 going in a hurry as well.
 
awthacker said:
Would you run offshore in the 10-25 mile range with that motor? If so, what would you want for it? If I bring the boat up on a saturday morning, any chance I could get you to help me rig it up? Pretty sure I have that red plug harness from my old 1984 Evinrude 185HP.
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Hows about $600 and I help you load it into your truck? I know you don't want to drag a V 2 1/2 hours here and then back no more than I want to rig it. Besides the gas money you'd save, you can get a foldable shop crane.
I want a tilt unit for another boat, with shipping they've been running about $600.
 
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Hows about $600 and I help you load it into your truck? I know you don't want to drag a V 2 1/2 hours here and then back no more than I want to rig it. Besides the gas money you'd save, you can get a foldable shop crane.
I want a tilt unit for another boat, with shipping they've been running about $600.
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Man wish I had it right now...that would do NICELY on my 18.:hide:
 
tsubaki said:
Hows about $600 and I help you load it into your truck? I know you don't want to drag a V 2 1/2 hours here and then back no more than I want to rig it. Besides the gas money you'd save, you can get a foldable shop crane.
I want a tilt unit for another boat, with shipping they've been running about $600.
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So you're saying it's time I buy a foldable shop crane? I guess I could figure it out on my own. You may have found your buyer, but installing an engine is not something I've been involved with before. I gave my old engine to a shop in exchange for them to get it off the boat.

Back to the 1st question... is it an engine you'd trust 20 miles offshore? (I am a SeaTow member).
 
Just found a shop crane available to borrow. Tsubaki, please don't mistake my excessive questions as a lack of appreciation. I can see that you're offering me a very good deal... I just want to make sure it's something that can get me home safely and that it is expected to hold up for a few years (something worth the effort).

The 115HP V4 on my old boat had compression in the low 90s and it ran like a champ, but I'm not sure what it means to have minor detonation to a cylinder.

Also, is the paint job and cowling in decent condition?
 
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In all honesty I haven't had the motor on the back of a boat since I found the problem.
Thought there likely was a catastrophic problem, checked into rebuilding it, priced it out and said screw it when I found the current motor.
After I repowered, out of curiosity pulled the starboard head. Cleaned the debris, bought gaskets, put it back together, ran fine seems the same as when I bought it.
Now I do know it has not been cranked since about August 2009, probably need to clean the carbs.
I don't trust any boat offshore and do have SeaTow, not only that, I generally don't go past 15 miles (chicken).
I'd invite FERM and anybody else's opinion to you as to this engine.
My personal opinion of it is to be a great rebuild candidate or use it till it needs rebuilding.
Just don't have a need for it on the fleet we've got now.
 
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tsubaki said:
In all honesty I haven't had the motor on the back of a boat since I found the problem.
Thought there likely was a catastrophic problem, checked into rebuilding it, priced it out and said screw it when I found the current motor.
After I repowered, out of curiosity pulled the starboard head. Cleaned the debris, bought gaskets, put it back together, ran fine seems the same as when I bought it.
Now I do know it has not been cranked since about August 1999, probably need to clean the carbs.
I don't trust any boat offshore and do have SeaTow, not only that, I generally don't go past 15 miles (chicken).
I'd invite FERM and anybody else's opinion to you as to this engine.
My personal opinion of it is to be a great rebuild candidate or use it till it needs rebuilding.
Just don't have a need for it on the fleet we've got now.
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If it turns out that he isn't interested, I might be. I currently have a 91 Evinrude 200. Anyone know how much different the controls and connections would be then this 84 Evinrude 150?
 
Some pictures, probably 6 months ago. Notice the dirt dawber in picture 4.
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