Anchor bow roller install

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ashokrags

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Hi all
I have a question about installation of an anchor roller. I just bought a Mantus M1 13 lb anchor. We do anchor a lot while the kids jump off. I looked up this one on Amazon. I think this might fit
White Water ARWU-03 Stainless Long Platform Anchor Roller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAD7VA...abc_Q9N14JAGBGQQ0ADXH10R?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

So some questions are
- would that fit on the bow without a pulpit?
- can I fit it offset to the bow? As it appears I might need to move my cleat
- can I just put a deck pipe and would that make it easy to stow my rope in the anchor locker

Any help/insight/comments will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Ashok
 
Let me look and see if I have one of those. Pretty sure that, or similar, is what I took off to rig for my rocking chair anchor that we use in the Columbia River.

If I have it and you want it, you can have it for the shipping.

I’ll try to get a look tomorrow.

There was no bow pulpit on mine and I don’t think it interfered with the cleat at all.
 
scook said:
Let me look and see if I have one of those. Pretty sure that, or similar, is what I took off to rig for my rocking chair anchor that we use in the Columbia River.

If I have it and you want it, you can have it for the shipping.

I’ll try to get a look tomorrow.

There was no bow pulpit on mine and I don’t think it interfered with the cleat at all.
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That would be great. Am definitely interested. Let me know if you find it. Will be glad to pay the shipping
Much obliged.
 
Well, after a hard day Saturday, I forgot to look today so I put it in my calendar for tomorrow. Will have answer by tomorrow night.
 
The pic's should give you a pretty good idea of what it is. Let me know any questions - it's not very heavy and is all stainless, except for black composite roller.

A caution when drilling through the deck and into the carpet on the roof of the cuddy - it's VERY tough carpet material - I've broken several drill bits getting the carpet fiber wound around the bit.
 
ashokrags said:
That would be great. Am definitely interested. Let me know if you find it. Will be glad to pay the shipping
Much obliged.
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I'm looking forward to your experience, @ashokrags.
I started adding an anchor roller myself, but it's still a work in progress.
I think that the roller that I bought is a little too small, and I made a bow pulpit out of Maple wood, but I didn't seal it yet, and the wood warped from being outside, so I may have to start again.

I decided to move my bow light. I replaced the single one in the center with separate red and green ones.

I end up going with these:

Attwood LIGHT ARMOR 2NM LED Stainless Steel Bow Navigation lights Pair NV1012SS

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And I'm really pleased with them! (I've already installed them, and wired 'em up).



scook said:
The pic's should give you a pretty good idea of what it is. Let me know any questions - it's not very heavy and is all stainless, except for black composite roller.
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That's *AWESOME*, @scook.

If anyone else has a decent-sized bow roller that they're willing to sell, I'd be interested.


@ashokrags,

I believe that the loop at the end of the bow roller actually goes on the top of the roller when installed and the rope and chain go through it.

That's the biggest problem with the small bow roller that I bought... it has a straight pin rather than a big loop, so I will need to modify it so that my anchor will fit through it.

The loop keeps your anchor rhode on the roller and in the right area so that it doesn't pop off and move all around. It also helps you secure your anchor when under way.
 
I thought mine looked kind of small and, yes I think the loop should probably go over the top - doesn’t make sense the way it is. I never used it.

The responses are a little confusing - is mine too small to be of interest? Just need to know if it should be stashed back with boat parts.

Thanks
 
I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"
 

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scook said:
I thought mine looked kind of small ... is mine too small to be of interest?
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@scook -- yours could be OK. I depends upon the size and type of anchor that someone wants to use. I guess the question is more for the O.P. to answer.

SkunkBoat said:
I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"
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That's really cool, @skunkBoat.

Since my homemade bow pulpit will have to be built again (it warped), I think that I'll buy a roller similar to yours instead.

I just ordered this off of Amazon.
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Based on your comments I think it will work very well!
 
scook said:
I thought mine looked kind of small and, yes I think the loop should probably go over the top - doesn’t make sense the way it is. I never used it.

The responses are a little confusing - is mine too small to be of interest? Just need to know if it should be stashed back with boat parts.

Thanks
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Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok
 
pjbrownva said:
@scook -- yours could be OK. I depends upon the size and type of anchor that someone wants to use. I guess the question is more for the O.P. to answer.



That's really cool, @skunkBoat.

Since my homemade bow pulpit will have to be built again (it warped), I think that I'll buy a roller similar to yours instead.

I just ordered this off of Amazon.
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Based on your comments I think it will work very well!
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I looked at that one too :) .. Let me know how it works out..
 
scook said:
The pic's should give you a pretty good idea of what it is. Let me know any questions - it's not very heavy and is all stainless, except for black composite roller.

A caution when drilling through the deck and into the carpet on the roof of the cuddy - it's VERY tough carpet material - I've broken several drill bits getting the carpet fiber wound around the bit.
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It might be bit too small for my anchor , Here are the dimensions from the Mantus site ... its the 13lb one
https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus...kniRoCC_4QAvD_BwE#1473344623990-4e9dc02f-2e2e


I think the length is a bit short, but that can be adjusted, the bigger concern I have is the shank might be too big to fit through the loop over the roller.
Mantus has a bow roller for the anchor, but its about $270. These are the dimensions of their bow roller
https://www.mantusmarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/BR1-BOW-ROLLER-DIMENSIONS-2020.pdf



I could be wrong and you can possibly confirm for me , but the height on that loop is less than 5" correct? Bases on their specs, it appears that I would need that much space. I will also measure my shank today too to confirm.


** regarding Carpet ** I just removed the entire carpet from the cuddy :bat: It was oily and smelly and I just found that the cuddy was much cleaner with it off. Thanks for that tip though..
 
ashokrags said:
Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok
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Hello All,
Sorry for the slow responses here. As you note above I had quite an adventurous time last week :sun: ..... LOL .


Anyways, here are some of the plans and welcome any suggestions. So far i have :


I am thinkin of getting 15ft of 5/16" chain for the anchor. And then finally the bow roller for the anchor. In addition to the generous offer from @scook there are a couple of options I am looking at on Amazon

There are still a couple of nagging questions I have about anchor rollers

  • Is the roller the one that bears the force? Previously i routed my anchor rope through chucks and then onto the bow cleat. So that is should it be load bearing?
  • Can i install it off center? Any reason not to do that.. Would I have to move the light? .. Or is that because the light would not be visible anymore because of the bow roller?
  • Still am confused about the deck pipe installation. Is it as simple as cutting a hole in the bow and mounting the deck-pipe i have listed up there or is there more i need to do? Also any thoughts on why I should not install the deck pipe in the cover to the cuddy?
This is how far i am now. Got the anchor and the rope and am going to pick up the chain today.. Will try to get the bow roller installed this month sometime :sun:


Much obliged for everyone's help and comments thus far.
Cheers
Ashok
 
Intuitively, the roller would bear the vertical vector force and the cleat the horizontal. If you’re not in much of a current, those forces shouldn’t be much of an issue. Out here in the Columbia River it’s a very big deal - an anchor rope fouled in the propeller, so the boat is anchored at the stern can and has sunk boats.
 
ashokrags said:
Could you post a image of where you installed the deck pipe. I bought this one

https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe
says line size 1" am hoping 5/16" chain will work with it.


Cheers
Ashok
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WHY are you using chain, or is that just for the end of the rode? And for heavens ske, why 5/16"? This is a 20 foot boat that at best could be called either light weight or medium weight. It's not a heavy weight boat, and even if it were, for it's length you would only be using 3/16 PC (Proof Coil) chain with 3/8 nylon rope.

Personally, I like and use 1/2" nylon rope with 1/4 PC chain at the end, mostly because I like how it feels in my hands, NOT because of additional strength. Just pay attention to your line length (8:1 ratio) and you'll have no problems. Here's a good link for info on chain, line and all the hardware you will need. https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/DIY-Upgrading-Your-Anchor-Rode
 
5/8" line is way too much. Bigger is not better.

Too expensive when someday you have to cut off (and your expensive anchor)...
You need too much room to store it!
300ft only gets you 60ft deep on a nice day. You'll be lucky to get 300ft of 5/8" in there.

3/8 ...7/16" is nice for pulling.

1/4" chain. 15' of 5/16 is too heavy.

That deck pipe will not fit chain. I have one in the 'never gonna use this" pile in my garage. You need the bigger round one or the oval one. I drilled a hole in deck and inside cabin to get to anchor locker. used a piece of cheap landscape drainage pipe siliconed between holes.

I saw a picture on the Mantis site of a Mantis in the same pivoting roller as mine.

here is a pic of the deck pipe
 

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It may not be relevant to how you use your anchors, but here’s my program:
When the rats got into my 3/8” line, I had already purchased 1/2” for easier grip (not for strength - the 3/8” held in very strong current, even bent my anchor when it got caught under a big rock). I now have a bunch of really nice rope to tie stuff on my truck.
I have three lengths of anchor line for different depths. This is so I don’t have a huge gob of line to toss overboard with a float when we drop off the anchor to play a fish and can come back to the same spot.
I connect the line to the chain with an openable link, so I can switch lines easily and it lets me leave the chain on deck, coiled around the bow cleat and drop the line into a basket in the cuddy.
This works for me, probably because I’ve rigged the sliding hatch to come completely off and stow in a rack under the deck - those hatches are a big pain for doing anchor work.
 
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