When's the breaking point?

THEFERMANATOR

THEFERMANATOR

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This goes along with Ridge's post about the cost of ring free. At what point will this explosive inflation catch up and cripple us? What is the point our economy breaks and crashes? I just had to buy a set of batteries for my bURB, and it set me back $239. Why does a pair of batteries have to cost so much at dealer cost(I get trade price, not retail)? Or why does a 5 quart jug of ATF now cost $23 when last year it cost $15?

I keep wondering how much longer it will be before it cripples our economy, and we crash. There are so many examples of things I bought within the last 2 years where they have doubled or tripled, and a few things have quadrupled. Yet wages haven't gone up that much(unless you work for McDonalds and go on strike to demand more for a high school level job) to match.

Or go to a grocery store and buy ground beef for $4+ a pound now where just a year ago it was about $2.50-$3 a pound. It seems the obamanomics are catching up to us all, and we now get to pay the price for it. But what will the end game cost of it be in the end?

I know I'm not the smartest most well versed in the economy, but even I can see it is in a downward spiral with no end in sight.
 
Amen. I drive a piece of crap back and forth to work. The oldest daughter is driving and heading off to college in 1 year. My youngest daughter will be driving next year. I don't know how in the world we are gonna make it through the next couple years. Things have gotten ridiculous.
 
They say that if you drop a frog in boiling water it will jump out but if you put it in cool water and gradually heat it up it will sit there and cook to death...... They are heating our water folks!
 
Seattle just passed raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, you just can't fix stupid and stoned. I still cant believe what some of you guys in the North East pay in property taxes, ya'll ever though about using tar and feathers on some of your elected officials? Its happening down here now as the influx of transplants that think its OK to have high property taxes are outnumbering those who realize it total BS. Its going to hell in a hand basket, quick. I was going to keep rambling on, but I'll put it in the political thread instead
 
the two counties in the country with highest taxes are Nassau and Suffolk counties. I live in Nassau county. at the end of the week I don't have a spare dime to put aside. I cant wait to get the hell out of here. sell my house, buy a little condo and do the whole snowbird thing.
 
smokeonthewater said:
They say that if you drop a frog in boiling water it will jump out but if you put it in cool water and gradually heat it up it will sit there and cook to death...... They are heating our water folks!
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It seems like every month the prices go up 10%. People who buy the stuff all the time don't notice it so much, but when you go a few months without buying something it's quite the shock. And it's everything it seems like. When I was outfitting my jon boat I couldn't believe how much some of this stuff has gone up. Moeller 6.6 gallon fuel tanks are a bargain at $75, yet I used to buy them 8-10 years ago for $25 for the same exact tank(has plastic gone up that much?). 5/16" EVINRUDE fuel line assemblies are now $60 for the cheapest one I could find, last one I bought 10 years ago was $25 full retail at a dealer. And so on and so on.

Or go to the grocery store, why does a bag of chips need to cost over $4? 10 years ago they would have been $1.29. Or milk is over $4 a gallon when just a few years ago it was $2.

They used to tell us prices were going up because the economy was going down. Now they say prices are going up because the economy is good. So which is it?

With my wife being a teacher and me being gimped up, our income isn't that great. But we don't have many bills, and everything we have is paid for. Yet we live paycheck to paycheck most of the time. Why should you have to make $75K+ just to live a decent life. 20 years ago you could live a nice life(better than many) on $25K, but with the out of control taxes, fees, and living expenses you have to make triple just to try and live something of a life instead of being to "LIVE" life. It scares me to think of what it will be like for my son by the time he is grown up.
 
Yep, and the way of old where one neighbor helps another is a thing of the past. Too many looking to the gubermint to solve their woes. I need more property so I can have a garden like Sir Stink.. I don't see it ever being a collapse.
BTW- at $15.00/hour I volunteer for the "stupid and stoned" gig.
It used to only pay $5.00/hr to be stupid and stoned.
Let's face it if you living in NYC in a 480 sq foot flat, your paying about $3k a month in rent. If your knocking down $15/hr your gonna come up a little short.. On the other hand.. if your living in Tampa, FL Your starting pay at $15/ hr. you are middle of the road in pay.
 
I been honking about double digit inflation forever. Printing the money we owe to China isn't sound fiscal policy, evidently.
 
When I was in high school $5 an hour was decent money.I worked for a lawn service for $6Hr, and were not talking a cushy one where you got to ride a zero turn, I got to walk my A$$ off behind a friggen walk behind and was expected to mow a lot in a trailer park in under 4 minutes. I was happy to do it then and thought it was good money. Now they want $10Hr to flip burgers(which was $3.45 an hour when I was in high school). My first job out of high school was in a dealership as a mechanic, and I started at $12HR, and had to supply all of my own tools, pay for my uniforms, and pay for my own training and certification tests(we got reimbursed if we passed our certs). Now they are talking about burger flippers who don't even have to have a high school education getting paid more than that.

I just don't see how we can keep going like this and our economy not collapse. It's scary to think about, but at our current rate it just seems ineviteable.
 
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It seems like every month the prices go up 10%. People who buy the stuff all the time don't notice it so much, but when you go a few months without buying something it's quite the shock. And it's everything it seems like. When I was outfitting my jon boat I couldn't believe how much some of this stuff has gone up. Moeller 6.6 gallon fuel tanks are a bargain at $75, yet I used to buy them 8-10 years ago for $25 for the same exact tank(has plastic gone up that much?). 5/16" EVINRUDE fuel line assemblies are now $60 for the cheapest one I could find, last one I bought 10 years ago was $25 full retail at a dealer.
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Well, you can thank the EPA and greedy people for those prices. The plastic in the fuel tanks needs to be Ethanol fuel resistant, plus the EPA made it a law that all new fuel tanks have to have the positive vent valve installed for emissions reasons. As to the fuel hose, again, it's because of the Ethanol fuel. Plain old rubber hoses gum up, so the new hoses actually are 2 hoses, one within the other, to resist the Ethanol. The greedy people are the Politicians, Farmers (yes, FARMERS too), manufacturers, retailers, truckers, and anyone else that's in the supply side that sees a way to make a few extra bucks on something "new". (And don't get on my back about farmers having to grow the corn because of regulations. Every single farmer group, co-op, etc lobbied for the Ethanol cause they saw it as a way to sell more corn. The results have been catastrophic on our economy.

Oh, and if you guys think that the present prices are high, hang onto your jock straps, because you ain't seen nothing yet. The EPA, in conjunction with the a$$hole in charge of the White House (who makes tons of money and has already taken more vacations (that YOU paid for) than ANY other president in our history, just passed a law that mandates that all PRESENT (not new plants..present ones) fossil fuel (coal, gas and oil) fired electric generation facilities MUST reduce their emissions by 1/3.

I was listening to the liar in chiefs stooge Jay Carney last night on the daily white house press briefings and he stood there and bold faced lied to the American public and said that their studies showed that the reduction would actually lower costs. If you think that making the electric companies spend BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars will reduce costs, then I have this bridge in Brooklyn, NY that I'm trying to sell,... perhaps you'd be interested in it?

What will happen as a result is quite predictable: Greatly increased rates for electric power, decreased availability of the electric power so vital to our way of life, decreased reliability of the electric grid, a lower standard of living, decreased competitiveness of US products in world markets since most countries do not have such regulations, and Communist-style central control of the electric generating industry by a Washington-based bureaucracy with no understanding of the industry.

You are going to see costs SKYROCKET shortly guys. There were a bunch of ignorant people in this country that voted for this guy for a second term, (even though he had a dismal record at best during his first term), because they thought that he "meant well and was trying"... Pardon me, I think I'm going to go vomit......
 
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It was all planned a long time ago.

I wrote out a longer reply, but the site always logs me out before I can submit it.

What would Blackbeard do, for that matter Jesus?

Have a cold one and think about it.
 
I feel your pain on the batteries Ferm...had to replace the one in the old minivan last week...they were $45 last time I got one for it (2008), $75 this time.

Several months ago when the stock market hit an all time high I moved all my 401k money out of stocks expecting the market to crash...since then its hit several more records in spite of the stagnant economy, the Russian's, slow job growth, etc...

None of it adds up.
 
randlemanboater said:
I feel your pain on the batteries Ferm...had to replace the one in the old minivan last week...they were $45 last time I got one for it (2008), $75 this time.

Several months ago when the stock market hit an all time high I moved all my 401k money out of stocks expecting the market to crash...since then its hit several more records in spite of the stagnant economy, the Russian's, slow job growth, etc...

None of it adds up.
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I think part of the reason that people are still investing in the market is because they don't think that the market will crash. They have no idea what $20 Trillion dollars in debt is doing to this Country's economy. One day, it's going to explode, and God help those that aren't prepared. I'm betting it will make the Great Depression of the 30's look like a stroll in the park. IMHO
 
^^ What Destroyer just said X 1000.

Randleman, I got out totally in January 2008. Had a bad feeling. People thought I was crazy.

Around september/october I was glad I did. Haven't lost any sleep yet over it.

Prefer to have more direct control over things. If I want to gamble I buy a couple mega millions lotto tickets when it gets up past 300 million or so.
 
My fuel pump just died on the Tahoe, the garage wanted $700 to $750 to replace:fight: Autozone wanted $240 for the pump. I went online to Rockauto and got it with shipping 2 days for $125!!!!!! After a calm nice 5 hours with a few short breaks the new pump is in and working!!!!!!!
Thanks to my son and nephew.
The worse part was not being able to do anything!! Just sat and watched, advised a little but not being able to get down and help I did not know a few things cause I could not see them :cen::cen:
O well its a done deal!! But I remeber when they were just a few bucks not all that long ago!!
 
Yep, I have started buying most all of my parts from ROCKAUTO. They get delivered to my door, most of the time I cna get OEM parts, and pay less than the cheap aftermarket ones from the parts stores. In the last year I have seen most things go up by 50%, if not more.
 
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