Sorry, Reelapeeling. Been outa town for a week. I got my Honda last May. I replaced the original "91 175hp Black Max, which was still running OK. The dealed gave me $1,000 trade. I think I love my motor more than my wife. It much quieter and more economical than she is. I feel it performs a little better than the Merc. In August I replaced the top and curtains. 2004 was a very expensive year but I am enjoying the hell out of the motor and the top. I hope to post some pictures soon. Good fishing, Barry