Whale Wars

spareparts said:
hmmmmm, whale meat, wonder if it taste anything like baby seal or manatee:hide:
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Maybe it tastes like chicken.

Anyway, if all the whales are killed, then the starship Entrprise will have to
come backin time to kidnap a male and female whale to save the Earth from
being swallowed by a giant space tube.
 
spareparts said:
hmmmmm, whale meat, wonder if it taste anything like baby seal or manatee:hide:
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i understand its similar to condor.

but seriously, we (man) have absolutely destroyed this planet and have directly caused the extinction of 99% of the species that ever lived.

i'll say that again. we have directly caused the extinction of 99% of the species that ever lived.

so what's another species give or take. this planet will collapse in on itself sooner or later. the only hope this planet has for survival is for man to become extinct. sad but true.
 
reelapeelin said:
That Japanese Captain should lose his license...it's clear as a bell, particularly from the 2nd video, that he intentionally steered his boat into the smaller vessel...they can hose 'em down all they wanna, but turning into them without regard to life and saftey should not be overlooked...

I believe it's a shame some cultures are still killing some of the most magnificent animals that ever existed on this planet...but as long as I continue to enjoy a good steak as much as I do, then who am I to throw off on others who use whale oil and eat the flesh...
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I agree Reel. Even if the Jap didn't turn INTO the SS boat, it is his (Jap Capt.)RESPONSIBILITY to avoid any colliosion at any time. Even if he did have the right of way, it is the responsibility of every captain to avoid collisions regardless of right-of-way. The second vid did appear to show the Jap boat turning into the SS boat.


Charlie, how exactly has man destroyed 99% of species that have ever lived on this planet? The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs can't even compete with that. I don't agree with whaling, but that seems to be a really big stretch. Kinda like "global warming". The planet and mother Earth is far more powerful at keeping natural balance than humans give her credit for. I'm not disputing the fact that man has caused the extinction of thousands (probably) of species, but lets get real.
 
hey bc, this is fact.
transformation of landscape.
overexploitation of species.
pollution.
introduction of alien species.
the sixth extinction is directly attributed to homo sapiens. phase one began when humans began to explore and disperse to different regions of the world.
phase two can be attributed to the beginning of agriculture.
wherever early humans migrated, other species became extinct. earth cannot sustain the trend in human population. it is reaching its limit in carrying capacity. less than 10% of the worlds species have survived the worlds sixth mass extinction. none are expected to survive the next one.
some experts have estimated that up to half of presently existing species will become extinct by 2100.
by the mid 1980's tropical rainforests were being cleared at a rate of 20 million acres per year.
i wrote a 40 page paper on this very subject in college. i still have about 39.75 pages of information left on the subject.
we are poison. the fact is, earth can not sustain itself at the rate at which we are depleting its resources.
most of these findings say the damage, for the most part is reversable but we are making very slow strides toward that end.
99%. FACT!
 
Just started to read further into this post and I am against whaling as being done by the Japanese. It just does not make sense.

But I do take exception to your statement above that humans are directly responsible for the extinction of 99% of anything.
Got to tell you, that sounds like the kind of tripe that is spewed by the Al Gore University Greenie carbon footprint types that has been used to indoctrinate kids in schools for decades now and is based on theories and conjecture of people with an agenda.
Just like global warming.
That being said, mankind has done a lot of bad things to our ecology, rainforest destruction is one big example. Pollution of our oceans and streams is another.
We have also, especially in this country done a great deal to clean up our act. We have also paid billions to help other nations get their act together thru direct treaties and thru the U.N
We can also do a lot more, but I am not going to go live in a cave and eat sprouts and kill off every other human born so that a species of tri-segmented sponge beetles can survive in a world that nature itself is constantly evolving species wise.
 
Nor am I in favor of killing every other child born...but if we don't eventually take some pre-conception action to get the Earth's human population under control, natural selection, POST conception will do it for us...too many resource-wasting humans aboard this little dust ball we're ridin' around space on...it'll all run out at this rate...we need to start remembering that we don't OWN this place...just borrowing it for the time we are here, and whatever's left gets handed over to our children...hope we're leaving enough to sustain them...
 
reelapeelin said:
Nor am I in favor of killing every other child born...but if we don't eventually take some pre-conception action to get the Earth's human population under control, natural selection, POST conception will do it for us...too many resource-wasting humans aboard this little dust ball we're ridin' around space on...it'll all run out at this rate...we need to start remembering that we don't OWN this place...just borrowing it for the time we are here, and whatever's left gets handed over to our children...hope we're leaving enough to sustain them...
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you said it Reel. If we would quit babying all those murderers and other assorted thugs and just put them out of our missery, that would help a lot. And just think about how good it would be for our environment when we get rid of all that methane gas they excrete while locked up!!!
 
Legal or not, don't ya think the Japanese captain and crew eventually get tired of being screwed with by these jokers? I think I might veer to starboard myself.
 
Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to wrap my feeble mind around this.

So out of all the species to have lived on the planet, there are only 1% of them left on Earth?
 
I can't see the 1% remaining either, not trying to pick a fight. It is what it is. I just find it hard to believe that we are responsible for the demise of 99% when we are still adding newly discovered species all the time. Where is the categorized list? Let's start with mammals. You may be right but it can't have happenned in my short lifetime. Taking whales ain't right for me, but if whaling is a sustainable fishery, my opinion don't count for much.
The footage taken from the Bob Barker showed how fast the Japanese Vessel was moving atop some pretty big swell. The captain had enough room to steer away but he obviously turned in. It looks to me like a 20 degree or greater course change over the time frame of a couple waves. Then a last minute turn away without the same wave action plowing on the bow and BAM. Destroyed in seconds. The Japanese captain put them all at risk but the enviros were there at their own risk to start with IMO.

Please forward the following to the Sea Shephard,
"Ridge Runner has three vessels that can be used/wasted ramming whaling ships. All three vessels could be carried on deck and all three can be had for less $$$ than you spent on fuel for your last voyage. Since you are hell bent on destroying property the condition of the vessels are of no consequence. All vessels are Coast Guard equipped and are certified to make best ramming speed or better."
 
Maybe CTT is saying that of the species that are extinct, humans are responcible for 99% of em............who knows.

What I don't understand about the hippies trying to stop the whalers is why don't they go ahead and use bombs and guns....they are already assaulting the Japanese by throwing acid at them and trying to damage their props.....if you are going to use force....USE FORCE!
 
Because that is piracy on the high seas, and when you start doing that laws of nations fall apart and the seas become a no mans land where anything goes whatever your agenda or your greed or your particular taste for evil.
 
willy said:
Because that is piracy on the high seas, and when you start doing that laws of nations fall apart and the seas become a no mans land where anything goes whatever your agenda or your greed or your particular taste for evil.
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Hell yeah, lets take it back to the 1600's when piracy was in it's hey-day! That sounds like it could be fun.
 
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