Well it begins

I sat in my wife's uncles living room and told him "there is no way possible this "Brady bill" will ever become law"!
In the original version there were sentences of banning "military type" and "ominous looking in nature" type of firearms.
ALL firearms are ominous looking, and I'm still trying to find one type that has ever been developed that wasn't used by the military.

Wish I had your optimism Blue.
Got a lot more socialists in this ballgame than in the other one.
 
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And you just don't have enough to get pissed at!

If you live in these states, you are required to destroy all non "encoded" ammunition by July 2011, if passed in your senate.
http://www.ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
This site is designed FOR more imposed regulations on All handgun ammo and All "assault" weapons ammo (which we know includes everything else).
Basically after June 2009 all ammo will be encoded as to origination and final sales to person. Any non encoded sales are forbidden after this date.
An extra 5 cents per round tax will be imposed above the current "unseen" tax. In Georgia it's 11%.
Possession of nonencoded after July 2011 will carry a fine of $1000 for the first offense, $5000 for the second and $10k for the third.
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I'm as scared of the liberal anti gun fanatics as any one, but I've been researching on the NRA website for a while and I haven't seen any alerts to any national legislation. The HR45 bill has been beat to death on serveral popular progun sites to the point that the administrator usually locks the thread after posting a link to all the other threads covering the same subject(the bill is over 5 years old and has been shot down several times). The gun shops are telling everyone that the sky is falling and you better buy your guns now, even at Wallmart, they are low on ammo. But when you go to the NRA's website, there is only a few state laws concerning guns that are being posted for review. I have to trust teh NRA to separate teh fact from fiction on the emails and anti gun scares I hear. I personally believe that the anti gun rights groups are going to keep trying, and I don't want to take gun ownership for granted, but for the most part, what we are hearing lately has been some creative marketing by gun manufactures and gun dealers to boost sales. I went inot a gun shop teh other day and overheard a salesman telling a customer that before long, you won't be able to buy new fangled high capicity, high power hand guns like the 1911 he was holding. I just looked at him, the elevated price tag on the Springfield he was holding, and turned and left, with my money.
 
any of ya'll been in a guns shop lately? They won't even budge on prices, they are list price and some above depending on the demand. The DPMS Sportacal was nationally listed at a fixed price of under $800, shops around here have been selling them above $1000, with a waiting list. Before the election, 40 Glocks were in the 500-550 range, now they stickers are around 650+. The Kimbers have gotten higher(even though they are not high capicity), the TLEII was around $750-$800, In December they jumped to over $1000. Funny thing is, the less popular, but no less quality by any means, guns like the HK's and SIg's are still around their prices of a year ago. It grips my butt that shops I have traded with are gouging on their prices, its one thing to charge retail to make a living, its another to pad the prices based on false speculation and hysteria, sounds a lot the fuel prices from last summer.
 
spareparts said:
any of ya'll been in a guns shop lately? They won't even budge on prices, they are list price and some above depending on the demand. The DPMS Sportacal was nationally listed at a fixed price of under $800, shops around here have been selling them above $1000, with a waiting list. Before the election, 40 Glocks were in the 500-550 range, now they stickers are around 650+. The Kimbers have gotten higher(even though they are not high capicity), the TLEII was around $750-$800, In December they jumped to over $1000. Funny thing is, the less popular, but no less quality by any means, guns like the HK's and SIg's are still around their prices of a year ago. It grips my butt that shops I have traded with are gouging on their prices, its one thing to charge retail to make a living, its another to pad the prices based on false speculation and hysteria, sounds a lot the fuel prices from last summer.
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tell me about it, the prices of ak's are well over 700, even the crappy yugo's they were only 200-300 before all that crap, even the sks's at least 400, thats a damn 100-200 dollar gun at its best.
 
In regards to the SKS I agree, but would add the following, if you have the opportunity, buy the Russian version. All forged, no stamped parts, built like a brick shoot house will fire under just about any conditions and accurate to boot. I know I have one of each, chinese, which shoots darn good, was made for military before they became the rage here, shoots well and tough but compared to the Russian version it feels and looks like a cap gun.
 
I guess it all boils down to every time I save enough money to buy that "toy" I want, everybody gets crazy about them and price skyrockets out of my range. It doesn't matter if its for my boat, truck, or any other hobby I have. Of course if I allready have one, no one wants them and they can be found everywhere for next to nothing, I guess I should start collecting turds.

BTW, if you know a FFL or C&R dealer check out http://www.samcoglobal.com/index.html

I'd love to have one of those Mausers or a K31

PS, Willy, I haven't heard a thing out of them lately, I think they went away, for a while anyway, nothing has shown up on our report, thanks for the advise.
 
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In regards to the SKS I agree, but would add the following, if you have the opportunity, buy the Russian version. All forged, no stamped parts, built like a brick shoot house will fire under just about any conditions and accurate to boot. I know I have one of each, chinese, which shoots darn good, was made for military before they became the rage here, shoots well and tough but compared to the Russian version it feels and looks like a cap gun.
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i agree with you willy, it did look like a cap gun, but its amazing what a T6 stock with a scope would do to a sks
 
How long is America gonna sit here with a stupid look on her face?

A quote:
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur – what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! "If. . . if . . . We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! . . . We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." (Note 5, page 13, Vol. 1,
The Gulag Archipelago
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, by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn)
 
And before you Goddamn democrats get you panties in a wadd, I'm talking the populous in general as to the candidates in hand.
We were sent NO usable candidates in the last election, this is all America is worth.
I thought we were all smarter than this, hopefully we will survive. I expect it, we have never failed.
Where is Charlie Daniels?
 
tsubaki said:
And before you Goddamn democrats get you panties in a wadd, I'm talking the populous in general as to the candidates in hand.
We were sent NO usable candidates in the last election, this is all America is worth.
I thought we were all smarter than this, hopefully we will survive. I expect it, we have never failed.
Where is Charlie Daniels?
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I think I love you Tsubaki.
 
I apologize to ya'll.
The only things in life I do is, work, play with the grandkids, hunt & fish and anything related to hunting and fishing.
These attempted further restrictions on legal law abiding citizens to possess firearms and now ammunition has gone way past trying to "protect the children" or "save us from ourselves".
It has become a desperate attack on the Second Amendment by anti-gun Nazis.
Hopefully this is more stupidity that gets washed off the deck.
Somebody please tell me it will be alright and I'm just a paranoid closet Conservative!
 
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