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Hey D ......
Well sir, what you don’t know but will now is I grew up in NY and knew of Trumps dealings quite well. I was initially a Trump supporter for President with a few concerns.

Trump subsequently lost my support and....I don’t identify my own self worth with
any political figure . Meaning......bad is bad, and I believe it takes character to say “ was wrong” and go in other direction. That’s what I did and I believe America is already much better for it . The non stop blaming, trouble stirring, and lying from Trump ended.....thank God.

Now as for your comment that I have some kind of issue ......that’s an unfortunate message to receive .....the days of “ you’re wrong and you have issues - insults etc” associated with Trump are behind us......
 
And as you know I grew up in NJ. What you don't know is I worked in NYC for many years. I know of Pres Trump's reputation. I agree it's less than stellar. There are many things I personally don't like about how he runs his life. But his personal life is not his political life, which is far and above that of Biden, Obama, Bush, etc. As a candidate he promised to do certain things. As President he kept his word and did them. I respect that in a man. Even more so in a politician.



Your attacking his personal life rather than his political life, without any specifics, without any proof, is simply a repeat of everything we've been hearing from the left for the last 4 years and has been characterized by the right as TDS. I don't need to be a doctor to know when a person is sick with a cold. Nor do I need to be a mechanic to know that when a car doesn't start something is broken. So also I don't need to be a sociologist in order to know when someone has TDS. Some things are simply apparent to the casual observer.



You say that "the days of “ you’re wrong and you have issues - insults etc” associated with Trump are behind us". Yet you have no problems saying that President Trump has a " Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder" or saying he "lies, cheats, steals, slanders, embellishes, misquotes, bully's, blames, etc". So which is it? Is it okay for you to call people names but not others? Truthfully, I didn't look at my saying you have TDS as name calling. I simply looked at it as an acknowledgement of an obvious fact. If it bothered you I do apologize. It is never my intention in a discussion to call people names. It is, however, always my intention to point out what appear to be obvious facts.
 
One of the many great things about our country — we get to vote, and the majority voted Trump out.....

Of course he claimed foul .....about the same voting process that he praised when he won in 2016, but that’s because he can’t face it . Lousy character, placed himself above the good of our country .

Anyway ..the carnival barker’s out, Joe Biden’s President, his lovely and talented wife working hard too, along with a solid VP and team.
 
Really? I find "Doctor Jill" to be grating, and the VP to be a solid ZERO. And I have been around enough dementia patients to know one when I see one.
 
So nice .....NOT hearing former President of our country non stop whining, blaming, slandering, and stirring hate every single day .....

Imagine ....a President of our United States that among other things:
Publicly sided with Russian former KGB Putin over our own top people.

Imagine ....a President of our United States gleefully standing by while his law breaking violent criminals break into our Capitol , set up a gallows to hang our Vice President,
attack our police, and vandalize our government building .

Well ...... it happened .

We came wayyyyyyyy too close but in the end, our Governors, Secret Service, Military, and our Government held and preserved our democracy.
 
A stick at the side of the road - is a stick .
Leaves on the ground - are leaves.

A man in position of President of our United States that repeatedly put himself ahead of our country in small and big ways ........is a traitor .
A traitor is a traitor.

Nice attitude Pipe .....agreed and cheers to you too sir
 
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Oh. I didn't realize we were moving on to discussing Biden.

"Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook."

~ Harry Truman


 
I applaud you guys for keeping it civil. Of course we disagree - we are supposed to. And let me add - there's a ton to disagree about! lol
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Orange Man ......the one term dictator wanna be......

Fooled many, but didnt fool the majority.
Stay in Florida .....till sent to Super Max Prison.
 
I'd take 4 more of the clown and his circus over the current horror show.
We're heading for the ditch!

Someone please tell me what good this administration has done so far ??


I'll be standing by
 
I'd take 4 more of the clown and his circus over the current horror show.
We're heading for the ditch!

Someone please tell me what good this administration has done so far ??


I'll be standing by
. Don’t ask others .....

Please just google “ BIDENS accomplishments in just first 50-100 days “
Doing great job ***128079; and already approval rating well ahead of Trump at same period.
Trump the traitor was at 34 % approval his last week .....a disaster presidency .
 
I only know a handful of people that voted for biden and they hate trump as a person. Nothing he did was good enough. I dont like the guy but he was a good president. I didnt vote for him to be my friend.
If you support the current clown show you should adopt a couple of those undocumented immigrant children that came across the border(who knows what happened to them along the way and the vp just laughs about it). And dont forget to hand in your guns too, except your double barrel. Joe says shoot that off the back porch if you hear a bump in the night.
Everyone that had anything to do with getting him in office should feel terrible. I wouldnt do that to an elderly person that doesnt know whats going on. He is just a puppet.
 
Well........ conspiracy theories, “ fake news”, “alternative facts”, and all the other nonsense Trump stirred non stop in his pot of BS is gone....

Long live true American democracy !
 
Greenie, you're wrong. You drank the Kool-ade and you've been brainwashed by a media that is 90% controlled by the left (let that sink in.. 90%) So 90% of everything you (think) you know about President Trump has been filtered by a media that has hated him since the day he left the Democratic party and became a Republican. (Hmmm.... who else do we know that did that... Ahhh yes, President Reagan) With the same results... the left hated him also.. but they didn't have social media as a tool for their lies back then. They couldn't censor the news like they did on President Trumps watch. They didn't have opinionists masquerading as journalists back then like we do now.


FIVE very rich billionaire CEO's control 90% of the "news" that the American public sees and hears. Add to that the THREE very rich billionaire CEO's that control and are actively censoring the content on Facebook, Twitter and Youtube so that you only see and hear what *THEY* want you to see and hear and it's easy to understand why people like yourself believe that crap about President Trump. As Paul Joseph Goebbels (Hitlers minister of Propaganda) once said. "When you control the media, when you control what they see and hear, you control what people think, and when you control what they think, you control them"


You have been fed nothing but pure propaganda, lies and distortions, all against President Trump, from the day he and his wife walked down that stairway to announce his run for president.


If you care to continue to believe the lies.... well, there's not much anyone can do or say to change your mind. As the saying goes, "There are none so blind as those that will not see". I think that describes you to a "T".



Have a great day. See you on the water.


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Now with Joe Biden as President and Kamala Harris VP ......were back to being more polite again.
So now we mostly say .....I disagree.......not youre wrong.

Unfortunately, far too many Americans followed Trumps very, very bad example to lie, cheat, insult and steal.
IRS, NYS and other departments will likely be pressing charges against Trump soon.

Through his presidency, i FACTS CHECKED many of his claims and found them to be false.
Our tax and other laws apply to him too.
 
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Well, you can "disagree" all you want. But when you're wrong, you're wrong. Disagreeing leaves room for debate or, at the least, dialog. Being wrong means there is no disagreement, there is no room for dialog, it's simply a matter of fact, and you're wrong.

You say President Trump was a bad person, that he did this and he did that. Then you go an announce your full support for the imposter-in-chief Biden, even though he has done almost nothing while in Congress for 40+ years, became a millionaire during that time on a 180K a year salary, likes to feel and sniff little girls (and big girls too), is a racist that has voted several times against black people, (resulting in thousands of them being put in jails), and even voted against the raid that killed Bin Laden. That's the "stellar" man you're supporting, because the billionaire masters that control the left wing media have told everyone to support him. He's so corrupt that he makes Trump look like an angel.

Debating you is useless because you discount anything that people say and simply keep repeating the same old left wing nonsense that orange man bad. Everything I've told you is easily verifiable, but I seriously doubt that you have even bothered to fact check anything I've said. I'm probably finished debating you on this subject. So go ahead, have the last word.

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Hey D ....Conspiracy theories are most often EXCUSES for people who want to avoid TRUTH .

Im not only stating Trump a bad person ........hes a criminal and should go to prison for crimes against our nation.

Lets take Mike Pence as example ...super loyal VP to Trump.
But it the end, because Pence stood tall and followed the LAW of our land, Trump not only threw him under the bus.....he left him to be hung by a violent mob !!!

You wrote Biden voted against the raid that killed Osama
Accurate truth was.....Biden did counsel against the attack thinking raid on foreign soil too risky without being sure Osama was there.
Our excellent President Obama took the risk - and it proved the right decision .


Personally , Id be embarrassed AND ashamed to support the traitor Trump.

Check facts not speculation.
 
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Another massive Trump BS memory.........

Trump spent years ripping Obama Care health plans as horrible.
Trump then PROMISED he’d have a MUCH BETTER plan on his day 1 .

Four years later Trump had NOTHING saying only that it was complicated.
 
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