Im pricing out a new brake job for my tandem axle trailer. It came with some rusted out drums and a froze up accuator cylinder. I figure I can replace the master cyl for 60.00 and upgrade to disc on one axle for about 320.00. I guess thats not to bad to be able ta stop safely. Ya'll got any suggestions, I'm all ears!
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Tie Down Disc Brake Assembly for 5 Lugs — 10in.
Stainless steel trailer disc brakes have aluminum calipers, bronze pistons and a painted steel hub and stainless steel rotor assembly. Noncorrosive. Assembled and pre-greased complete with bearings and seals. Ready for retrofitting drum brakes or for new installation. Order two per axle. Mfg. part# 81101. 1 year warranty. U.S.A.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_801_801
tsubaki
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Air, help me out here.
I don't have brakes either but thought this would be a perfect upgrade being stainless and all.
Hows about some info on the Kodiak system and the negetive aspects of the tie downs.
garagenc
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Hey C
Check out Portsmouth trailer sales, about 6 years ago I had to change my drum brakes and I just bought the replacement shoes. By the time I changed over and replaced the rusted parts I only saved about $15.00 each side.
Justa a thought but if you can't afford stainless then just buy the complete changeout assembly, unbolt 4 bolts and the brake line and slap the new ones in place.
Check out Portsmouth trailer sales, about 6 years ago I had to change my drum brakes and I just bought the replacement shoes. By the time I changed over and replaced the rusted parts I only saved about $15.00 each side.
Justa a thought but if you can't afford stainless then just buy the complete changeout assembly, unbolt 4 bolts and the brake line and slap the new ones in place.
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Points to consider for Integral (One Piece) Hub & Rotor
(In this type, the rotor and hub are cast as a single unit. Wheel studs are pressed into the rotor. Bearing races are furnished.) Hub and rotor are machined together. This minimizes rotor runout. Hub and rotor are balanced as one unit, which offers a smoother ride. Ease of installation when retroffitting and/or upgrading from drum brakes.
Points to consider for Integral (One Piece) Hub & Rotor
(In this type, the rotor and hub are cast as a single unit. Wheel studs are pressed into the rotor. Bearing races are furnished.) Hub and rotor are machined together. This minimizes rotor runout. Hub and rotor are balanced as one unit, which offers a smoother ride. Ease of installation when retroffitting and/or upgrading from drum brakes.
Axle CapacityApplicationOptionsPart NumberPer Side
Pricing
Warranty3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM10EKIT$109.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM10SCADKIT$125.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK1HRCM10SCADSSKIT$187.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Galvanized hub with stainless steel rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 14" and larger wheels.Galvanized hub, stainless steel vented rotor, stainless steel caliper and stainless steel mounting bracket.KK1RCM10SSKIT$396.95Manufacturers Exclusive 6 years
Pricing
Warranty3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM10EKIT$109.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM10SCADKIT$125.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 10" rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 13" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK1HRCM10SCADSSKIT$187.95Manufacturers
3 years
3,500 lb.Galvanized hub with stainless steel rotor, 5 bolt on 4 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 14" and larger wheels.Galvanized hub, stainless steel vented rotor, stainless steel caliper and stainless steel mounting bracket.KK1RCM10SSKIT$396.95Manufacturers Exclusive 6 years
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All hub/rotor assemblies include:
1 - inner bearing
1 - outer bearing
1/2" wheel nuts, 60 degree cone
seal
mounting bracket bolts and nuts
xl grease cap with removable plug
Notes:
One wheel assembly per box
Universal (left or right)
Heavy duty brakes for: Marine, R.V., Livestock & Utility
All rotors are vented for better heat dissipation
Stainless steel piston, bolt, and sleeves
Galvanized backing plate with organic friction lining.
1 - inner bearing
1 - outer bearing
1/2" wheel nuts, 60 degree cone
seal
mounting bracket bolts and nuts
xl grease cap with removable plug
Notes:
One wheel assembly per box
Universal (left or right)
Heavy duty brakes for: Marine, R.V., Livestock & Utility
All rotors are vented for better heat dissipation
Stainless steel piston, bolt, and sleeves
Galvanized backing plate with organic friction lining.
Axle CapacityApplicationOptionsPart NumberPer Side
Pricing
Warranty5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM12EKIT$149.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM12SCADKIT$171.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK1HRCM12SCADSSKIT$224.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Galvanized hub with stainless steel rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Galvanized hub, stainless steel vented rotor, stainless steel caliper and stainless steel mounting bracket.KK1RCM12SSKIT$526.95Manufacturers Exclusive 6 years
Pricing
Warranty5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM12EKIT$149.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK1HRCM12SCADKIT$171.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Integral (one piece) hub and 12" rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK1HRCM12SCADSSKIT$224.95Manufacturers
3 years
5,200 lb.Galvanized hub with stainless steel rotor, 6 bolt on 5 1/2" bolt circle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 15" and larger wheels.Galvanized hub, stainless steel vented rotor, stainless steel caliper and stainless steel mounting bracket.KK1RCM12SSKIT$526.95Manufacturers Exclusive 6 years
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Axle CapacityApplicationOptionsPart NumberPair
Pricing
Warranty7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378EKIT$425.95Manufacturers
3 years
7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378SCADKIT$493.95Manufacturers
3 years
7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378SCADSSKIT$670.95Manufacturers
3 years
Pricing
Warranty7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.E-Coated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378EKIT$425.95Manufacturers
3 years
7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, caliper and mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378SCADKIT$493.95Manufacturers
3 years
7,000 lb.Pair of integral (one piece) hub and 13" rotor, 8 bolt on 6 1/2" bolt circle for one axle. Caliper mounts to 4 bolt brake flange and fits inside 16" and larger wheels.Silver Cadmium plated hub/rotor, stainless steel caliper and silver cadmium mounting bracketKK2HRCM13378SCADSSKIT$670.95Manufacturers
3 years
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What makes Kodiak Disc Brakes the Best
Automotive Quality Casting. Rotors are 100% tested and balanced to meet very strict specifications. Our Rotors are vented to improve heat dissipation. All gray iron rotors are 35,000 PSI tensile strength castings for longer rotor life, improved structural integrity and superior performance.
Kodiak caliper mounting brackets are durable, heavy duty casting of ductile iron or stainless steel. They utilize an embossment in the design to give more thread contact for the caliper guide bolt to insure a tight fitting and secure connection. All Kodiak brackets have side support, therefore the bracket carries the load not the bolts.
All Kodiak calipers are of low drag design. This retracts the piston further than the competition, which equates to cooler running brake. 100% high and low pressure tested. Contains 2 special bolts with Thread Locker (use socket or allen wrench), dual port bleed screw, 2-1/4" stainless steel piston (largest in the industry) & organic NAO pads.
Automotive Quality Casting. Rotors are 100% tested and balanced to meet very strict specifications. Our Rotors are vented to improve heat dissipation. All gray iron rotors are 35,000 PSI tensile strength castings for longer rotor life, improved structural integrity and superior performance.
Kodiak caliper mounting brackets are durable, heavy duty casting of ductile iron or stainless steel. They utilize an embossment in the design to give more thread contact for the caliper guide bolt to insure a tight fitting and secure connection. All Kodiak brackets have side support, therefore the bracket carries the load not the bolts.
All Kodiak calipers are of low drag design. This retracts the piston further than the competition, which equates to cooler running brake. 100% high and low pressure tested. Contains 2 special bolts with Thread Locker (use socket or allen wrench), dual port bleed screw, 2-1/4" stainless steel piston (largest in the industry) & organic NAO pads.
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tsubaki
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OK, the appeared differences.
Kodiak, less than $400 per side. Tie Down over $100 per side.
Both have stainless rotors.
Kodiak has a stainless caliper and mounting plate with galvanized hub.
Tie Down has an aluminum caliper with a galvanized mounting plate and hub.
Both appear to mount the same.
Any other differances?
Kodiak, less than $400 per side. Tie Down over $100 per side.
Both have stainless rotors.
Kodiak has a stainless caliper and mounting plate with galvanized hub.
Tie Down has an aluminum caliper with a galvanized mounting plate and hub.
Both appear to mount the same.
Any other differances?
Thanks fellas, Ive looked at all the above and was wondering which were best without breaking the bank. Im pulling my V with a tacoma, and I can pull it ok but catch hell stopping it. I definately need some brakes! I cant afford a bigger truck right now, got one daughter in college and paying for my wifes forerunner. Id like a new Tundra, but will have ta wait a while yet. Ill let you all know which brakes I go with. Dont use it in salt water much.
reelapeelin
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I put Tie Downs on all 4 of mine and have REGRETTED it ever since...just say no to Tie Down and get the Kodiaks...Tie Downs are MICKEY MOUSE brakes...they happen to make a good actuator, the 6000, but their disc brakes SUCK OUT LOUD...
reelapeelin
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That caliper is about the only thing that's held up...pads don't drift away from rotors as they should...can hear them from inside the truck (windows down)...wear and drag...pistons hang up, boots shot...trust me...just go Kodiak and avoids probs...even when they're workin' right, they don't seem to have a lot of braking power...
Airslot
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Sorry, been busy. The tiedown's biggest problem from what I've seen with my own eyes are their calipers and the mounting brackets. I see mess of these brakes as they are on most new trailers now. I work in a large waterfront community. So many people launch in the spring and park the trailer till fall. Many of them return to seized calipers.
I went with the S-Cad Kodiaks, and they still look new after 50 or so cycles.
'Slot
I went with the S-Cad Kodiaks, and they still look new after 50 or so cycles.
'Slot
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I'm not a big fan of brakes for a boat of that size but I have never really had a time where I had to slam on the brakes. Sense the boat is not that big could you just add brakes to the two front tires on each side and not all four?
That was my next question, which axle ta put em on. I guess the weight transfer to the front makes putting em on the front axle the preferred choise. Iv gotta order a new master cylinder for my DICO coupler and I'll go with the Kodiak disc for the front axle. Thanks for all the information. Its really helped me alot!!
