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Mac,

You should add your location to the space beneath your user name.

I can see from your profile that you are from Michigan.

That is good for your search for a niceboat.

You should be able to find a v20/21 that has only been used in sweetwater. If I lived in Michigan, there is no way I would travel to Rust City for a boat.
 
I agree! a 20 year old boat used in fresh water is a better deal than a 5 year old salt water boat....drove to Kansas from Virginia to get a fresh water boat and it was worth it
 
Thanks for the advice Seakindly. I changed it. In the past 6-7months I have found only 2Michigan or Ohio V20s listed on the web. Called on both but they were already sold. Seems like most of the V20-21s are on the east coast, Floriida or Texas. I did find one on the East Coast where the guy said it was only used in the bay. I question the salinity of bay water. I'm set on a V20-21 I'll find one.
 
Mac, before computers there were these bulky things made out of trees with words on them. Some of those words were ads for boats 4 sale. ;)

Seriously, why not go down to the library and look at some classifed ads from October from your local newspaper and your local fishing weekly. You just might run into a v20/21 that was advertised, but didn't sell, so the seller said screw it - I'll wait till spring to advertise it again when more people will be looking to buy. You just might get the jump on a nice v20/21. 8)
 
When I converted my V20 from IO to outboard I tryed to sell all the IO stuff in the fall and got nothing!! then did again in the spring and sold all in a week!! I had a guy that must have had a old copy of the want ad and called me in Aug. to see if i had the stuff. This 4 months after it was all gone.
So try to call them old ads like seakindly said, there might be one waitting there for you??
 
I have checked our local papers for boat ads. I did not check the Detroit News or Free Press though. Those two papers and the Union had a long bitter strike. I had cancelled my subscription supporting the workers. Enough of that, should not talk politics when I could be talking boating or fishing. You two are right! I'll go to the library, find back issues and maybe find my nice boat. Thanks! How do you cook fluke? Bill Mc
 
I cook it all kinds of ways!! I love to fry it like fish and chips!! But I like to make a seafood stuffing and wrap it in the fluke and bake it with butter and lemon. Also good in the micro wave !! Belive it take some chips and crumble them on top and mic it comes out fast and good!!
Also like rolled up with a piece of Bacon some times to!

Wow guess whats for supper tomorrow!! Just told the wife to take it out!! I have one of them Vacum pac machines and itworks great!!
 
Never!! I draw the line at raw fish :P I have a Asian friend that has wanted me to do Fluke and Tuna, and I just can't do it. Maybe if I was dieing on a deserted Island I might but other wise no deal !
I have tryed raw little necks, and can get all I want for free as my friend has a grant were he growes them, but again I did not like it. But with a little bacon under the broiler ;D !! Thats the way.
 
Macojoe, which machine do you have, and when did ya get it?


I was thinkin about gettin one last year.
 
I have the Food Saver Bag Vac. It is about 4 or 5 years old now. It works great!! You will need to learn some tricks. When putting fish in dry with paper towle first and try not to let the part of the bag that is going to seal get wet, or it won't seal.I will do things like sauce, or stew when I make a big pot. But you should freeze it first in a container then seal in bags. this way the machine doesn't suck up the juice and not seal. Same goes for things that will get squeezed when vac is running.
I use mine alot!! you can boil bags, mic, freeze in them.
I will take a stew and put in a bag and freeze then throw hole bag in boiling water to heat. Open pour to bowl and eat!!
 
4 or 5 years of frequent use with no problems sounds like a reliable machine.

I noticed that sears is marketing these machines under the kenmore name. I wonder if they are made by the same manufacturer?
 
Sears makes nothing!! So I am sure it is Food Saver.
I like mine. It can be a pain in the being when your are learning. Like I said if you get a little water or juice next to where you are going to seal it won't and you be screaming!! I almost brought it back to the store when I first got it for that reason.
I put everything in them bags!! stuff for the boat xtra clothes, rigs I made, spare spark plugs, evt ect
You also have to watch for sharp things like bones and stuff. Just a little pin hole will make it not seal.
 
Thanks for the advice Seakindly. I've been to the library and looked through last fall's Sunday editions of the News and Free Press - no V20s or 21s. I'm from a fresh water area and know nothing about the problems caused by salt water. Please tell me. Thanks Bill Mc
 
Mac -
Here are a few options: Some really nice boat here!! Unfortunately all except one are in Florida

1995 v21 steplift with 2000 honda 130hp $12,900
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/6/65112656.htm

1992 v20 steplift with 1992 Yamaha 150 $7000
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/65114238.htm

1989 v20 steplift with 1993 Yamaha 200hp on a bracket $7995
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/8/62084878.htm

1988 v20steplift full transom OMC Stern Drive $5500 (price is high)
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/2/64534062.htm

1993 v20 Center Console with 1992 yamaha 150 $9995
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/8/65112578.htm


http://www.ocala4sale.com/Automotive/boats.htm
wellcraft openfisherman, 95 200 hp johnson, allum. trailer, t-top, coolers, fish box, bait well, lights,3 batteries, minkota 50 lb. trolling motor, great groper, red fish, trout and bass fishing boat or just playing on the lake.$7900 obo. [xp.8] call (352) 427 5876 johngblouse111@comcast.net

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I would go for the $5500 with the full transom!! Nothing like a dry boat!! That full transom is a great thing to have.
This is how mine is now since i added the bracket.
 
Mac, do you have local/regional weekly fishing magazines. They would be a great place to check the fall ads for a v20/21.

Salt water is very corrosive to any metals, even marine grade aluminums and stainless steels. Even if you religiously flush and wash after every use, it will still take it's toll after a while. A well cared for used saltwater boat can still be a good one to get, but my point is that since you are living in Michigan, you should be able to find one that has been used in freshwater. It can be worthwhile to travel inland, as BRIANM did, to get one; but not so nifty to do the reverse.

In my area, a boat that has been used only in freshwater commands a higher price, and it's condition can justify it.

Good luck!
 
The boat in Ohio looks clean and its a freshwater boat that only 3hours away! Macajoe or any one else what's the problem or problems with Force?

Thanks Bill Mc
 
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