President Obama vs Trump on deportations

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Obama’s pace of getting people that shouldn’t be here much greater than Trump.

And no national guard, no Marines , no tackling Senator for asking questions
 
Sleepy Joe’s withdrawal from Afganistan was a mess and leaves to wonder who actually set the evacuation plan.

On deportation, yes Obama’s illegal alien program resulted in a greater pace of ejects than Trump. Obama just didn’t sell it as trumps doing .
Posting sources to be called “ fake” isn’t cool, so just Google it and you’ll see
 
When I see “news” that I know is false, I call it fake. I don’t need anyone else telling me it is. Trump was certainly right about a huge amount of “news” about him being fake, and we saw a flood of well known to the phony “news” purveyors blatant lies about Biden’s mental condition. When it became so well known and obvious that a person’s I.Q. would have to be less than their hat size to believe it, it was reduced somewhat.
 
I did some looking up, and apparently the definition by which Obama’s “removal of illegals” is reported is based on court orders for removal, not who actually left, so it’s unknown.

The Trump administration is: 1) Targeting criminals, and 2) Hindered as much as possible by judges, sanctuary cities and states and criminal lefties tipping off and helping illegals to avoid ICE. Obama got a pass from all of those groups. It needs more research, because it’s so implausible that Obama’s removal of illegals was robust at all, and as my old dad used to say (regarding the numbers reported) “Figures don’t lie, but liars figure”.
 
scook said:
When I see “news” that I know is false, I call it fake. I don’t need anyone else telling me it is. Trump was certainly right about a huge amount of “news” about him being fake, and we saw a flood of well known to the phony “news” purveyors blatant lies about Biden’s mental condition. When it became so well known and obvious that a person’s I.Q. would have to be less than their hat size to believe it, it was reduced somewhat.
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How do you know when news is fake ?
Unfortunately, based on all info., it seems Trump did lose the 2020 election, but created his own fake news otherwise.

It’s our right to discount news if we want, but I draw the line to not discount just because I may not like it .
 
I agree that we shouldn’t discount news just because we don’t like it. Regarding the 2020 election, I don’t know either way, but with very thin margins in swing states and the data mining documentary that was done, I think there was enough question to require a thorough and honest investigation, not into whether the ballots that got counted were counted correctly, but how many were fraudulent. The Democrats certainly had no incentive to do that, and with the abject corruption of the FBI and Justice, honest would have been hard to find as well.
 
There were major investigations from Trumps team that found no fraud

  • Electoral Vote: Joe Biden won 306 electoral votes, while Donald Trump received 232. This gave Biden victory in the Electoral College.

  • Popular Vote: Biden received over 81 million votes, the highest number of votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in U.S. history. Trump received 74.2 million popular votes.
  • Significance: The 2020 election was notable for several reasons, including:
    • High Voter Turnout: The 2020 election saw the highest voter turnout of the 21st century, with 66.8% of eligible citizens casting ballots.
 
No fraud ? Really, where were the 81 million votes in 2024?
That election was RIGGED.
The only reason Hillary lost is because they thought she was going to win,they didn’t think they would have to rig it
81 million votes. Sure he did.
 
steplift20 said:
No fraud ? Really, where were the 81 million votes in 2024?
That election was RIGGED.
The only reason Hillary lost is because they thought she was going to win,they didn’t think they would have to rig it
81 million votes. Sure he did.
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I hear you Step, but all the data proved otherwise.
We can’t just “wish” things to be true.
 
I forgot to mention ballots that fraudulently didn’t make it to be counted. There was also the dishonest suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, which implicated Joe in criminal activity, the incessant lying about Trump’s Russian collusion, the dishonest, wildly biased negative “reporting” and opinion by the NYT, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, etc., which wasn’t direct vote tampering, but wasn’t all that far from it. There’s also some question about the ultra high turnout being evidence of ballot box stuffing. We’ll never know, because there was no real and honest investigation into the relevant questions by the corrupt Biden administration and Trump has more important things on his plate to deal with, thankfully being president now.
 
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