Bradford, I feel the same way about Key West. Over all, the areas we were in were pretty good. Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, San Clemente, Laguna Beach, and Dana Point were all very nice and most of the people were nice. But the bums were every where we went, they got worse as the areas we were in got worse, but they were everywhere. There is some beautiful country out there, and you could tell the real Californians, they were nice and pleasant, they all were very respondent to our "southern politeness". I had several people compliment my two girls on their manners. The thing about out there, is there are a lot of people that aren't from out there(lots of Europeans and South Americans), you could tell the Californians feel there are out numbered. If any of you ever get the chance, I highly recommend driving the PCH, we only did it from San Diego to Santa Barbara, I'd love to drive the whole way, or even take the train(follows the same route)