New Tow Truck?

That toyota is very similar to the one we were in, it went up that rutted out dirt road carrying us the driver for a total of seven and towing a trailer like an army mule. Did 65 mph on the highway getting tothe take off point with plenty of omph left over.
Thats what has got me really PO'd BS. Those vehicles meet all kinds of air standards everywhere else but they won't let them in.
Can you imagine having a 1 ton Pick me Up 4x4 that will tow anything you got and get 40-50 MPG's doing it.
Neither can I because I live in the peoples republic of New Jersey America.
What a shame, and its our own fault for electing these pieces of dung into office over and over again :-/
 
Willy - can you imagine how fast those trucks would sell if they could sell them in the US. I see what people here do to get VW TDI's into CA. Dealerships in Oregon and Nevada give them to their employees to drive for 7500 miles and then sell them in CA for more than the sticker price.
 
Guys don't you know you can't have your cake and eat it too. Those are some very impressive numbers, and I would break my long standing opinion to buy american if they were introduced based on sheer economics. It truely is our own fault for not pushing our representatives to intorduce these vehicles
 
Willy, My brother is building a house in DR!! He has told me of a van like you say, bet its the same one!
 
Do you really want everybody to drive diesels? Think about it. Our refineries are geared to make gasoline. They are extremely efficienct at distilling crude into gasoline. A 42 gallon barrel of crude can be turned into something like 35 gallons of gasoline. Because of the decrease in density from distilling crude into many lighter products like gasoline, more than 42 gallons of product can be made from the 42 gallons of crude. Diesel is much denser than gas. Not as much diesel can be produced from a barrel of crude as gas. Plus, the reason we are so efficient at producing gas is because of carbon cracking and other processes of turning less desirable hydrocarbons into the short hydrocarbon chains that make up gasoline. It may be more difficult to synthesize diesel fuel with its more complex hydrocarbon chains through these practices. Do you want to pay $6 a quart for diesel like you do your synthetic oil? I believe, because of the price of crude oil, it is wisest for us to stick with gasoline at the moment.
 
GM you have more experience than me thats for sure when it comes to engines, but in my humble opinion all that about the cost of diesel is poppycock. It is less refined than gas, and according to motor trend magazine the newer low sulfur diesel is great from an emmisions stand point. The reason diesel is more pricey here is because of what you say about out capacity to refine being vastly weighted toward gas.
Which is precisely why you won't see these vehicles here. Because big oil and all their political sh!tbirds in their pockets of both parties have a situation here in which they are making astronomical profits, the highest they have ever seen and they will not change anything. I don't care if the country goes into a huge recession, the market crashes or war brakes out all over the world. They will not have their profits touched.
That is why we need to do it in the elections. We need to do it, thats all.
 
Was that Rodeo truly a 1=ton? That would be incredible if true. Yep, them vehicles are to efficient to sell over here.

Airslot
 
GMC - You're saying we could run 2x's as many pickup trucks on the current amount of refined Diesel fuel and produce the amount of gasoline for our other vehicles.
 
reelapeelin said:
Great numbers on those trucks...but the reel litnus test...will they TOW a V20?... ;) ;D ...

I tow my V-20 with a Ford Van powered by a V6 ( tow package included ) It handles the boat just fine.
 
I think Vans tow the best!! I had a couple for Business reasons few years back and they must block all the wind or something!
I could adjust the trailer so I could lift with one finger, and the thing would never sway!
 
I'm saying that the if we increase our demand for diesel, we may increase our demand for crude because the it will take more crude to produce the same Btu's of diesel when compared to gasoline. The increase in demand for crude would drive the prices of everything up. I don't have any sources or anything, it's just some thing I've been thinking about.

Some statistics I have found...

A barrel of crude produces:
19.4 gallons of gasoline.
9.7 gallons of light distillate oils including heating oil and diesel #2.
4.3 gallons of kerosene
1.9 gallons of residual fuel oil (HFO)
1.9 gallons of liquified refinery gasses
some other stuff

Less than half the amount of diesel can be produced form a gallon of crude. If we were to replace all of our gas burning vehicles with diesel burning vehicles, we would double our demand for crude oil.
 
I think we should change to water power.

I found this interesting website by just doing research on
water powered cars.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/

They mention an add on that is being sold in Canada
that converts water to hydrogen and then injects
it into the fuel stream.

Sounds pretty interesting to me.

They also mention a guy who developed a vehicle
that ran completely on water.
The guy mysteriously got poisened and then
a few days later all his research and prototypes disappeared,
never to be seen again, except for what could be
recreated through what was left.
 
76GMC I think those figures are the average of what we produce out of a barrell of crude. I think that pending demand those numbers can be flexed many different ways. I'm pretty sure we could refine more #2 oil and less gasoline if thats what the demand was for. There is a good chance that I'm wrong on this, but that what I think...

Airslot
 
Even if the refineries were completely retooled to make #2, I don't think they could approach the amount of gasoline produced from a barrel of crude. I do believe some refineries that specifically make gasoline can make nearly 35 gallons starting with 42.
 
parishht said:
I think we should change to water power.

I found this interesting website by just doing research on
water powered cars.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/

They mention an add on that is being sold in Canada
that converts water to hydrogen and then injects
it into the fuel stream.









Sounds pretty interesting to me.

They also mention a guy who developed a vehicle
that ran completely on water.
The guy mysteriously got poisened and then
a few days later all his research and prototypes disappeared,
never to be seen again, except for what could be
recreated through what was left.






So what happens after we burn up all the world's water, huh??... what then??...
;D ;D ...
 
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