Murphy or Kim

Is it just me or does that guy Phil Murphy look like the biggest liar and snake ? He's always trying to smile ( fake smile for sure) I feel if he wins we the working middle class are going to get screwed big time , am I the only one seeing thru him He's bad news for Nj And just to make it clear I didn't vote only because I can't vote for anyone who liked the gas tax and I didn't know that answer from anyone who was on the ticket so I just stood out this time
 
IF Murphy gets in you can kiss goodbye ANY chance of being able to carry a weapon, concealed or open, for as long as he's in power. Murphy is just another of a LONG line of Democrats that promise everything and do nothing but raise your taxes. Remember when NJ had no sales tax? Thank a Democrat for giving it to us. In 1930 it was .02 cents... and supposed to never go higher. It expired 3 years later ... The sales tax was revived in 1966, at 3 percent by Gov Hughes, a Democrat. It was increased to 5 percent in 1970 and 6 percent in 1983. After running on a promise to not increase taxes Democratic Gov. Jim Florio decided to raise the sales tax to 7 percent and also asked for a $2.8 billion tax increase. It was the largest tax increase of any state in U.S. history. And speaking of taxes, lets not forge that it was Democrat Gov Brendan Byrne that imposed the state income tax on us in 1976. All the labor unions that are bleeding the state dry are all firmly in the Dem's pockets. So your answer is simple. If you want higher taxes and no chance of regaining your Constitutionally guaranteed right to carry a gun vote for Murphy.

(I'm willing to bet that one of the first things he'll do is start charging for the saltwater fishing license that is currently free in NJ)

These are the bastards that voted for the gas tax that put us number 2 in the US as the highest gas tax. And their reasoning was that since we had not had an increase in the gas tax in 10 years they felt like they somehow deserved it, like a raise. They took advantage of the lower gas prices hoping that no one would notice that almost every penny of the lower prices was taken from us by them.. and by "them" I mean the democrat party controlled state lawmakers. If you elect Murphy you can expect more of the same. (I was down in Va 2 weeks ago and filled up my tank @ $2.09 a gal. That's about what we would be paying right now in NJ if they had not passed the .23 cents a gal higher tax.)
 
I was watching Murphy speech when he won a I can't believe people are that stupid and they want him I think only the scum that doesn't work and take take take Want him, if he wins we the working public are screwed Chrissy was not good , raising the gas tax And don't forget the tolls my nj But he is better than Murphy I think it's time to get out of nj I just can't afford it anymore Tax tax tax That's all they know
 
There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....
 
There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....

Skunk, while I completely agree with you that there is no real answer to the question I feel compelled to point out that your casting the Republicans as the major cause of NJ's woes is hardly accurate. In fact, just like in the Federal system, the true power of the purse rests with the NJ Legislature and the NJ Senate. If you go back 50 years to 1967 and count forward you'll find that for 30 of those years the Democrats were completely in control of both branches and the Republicans were only in control for 12 years. That's roughly a 3-1 advantage for the Democrats. (I'm not counting the years when one party was in control of one branch and the other party was in control of the other or when both parties were split evenly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_New_Jersey

So your casting the Republicans as the bad guys is numerically and statistically false. (It's the old song and dance that the Dems constantly use... The republicans only cut taxes for the rich, the Republicans added more sin taxes, etc etc etc.) The FACT is that the gravy pension funds that the various unions have (who are 100% in the pockets of the Democrats) are one of the main reasons for the monetary problems the state is facing. So IF you want to blame Republicans for adding more hidden taxes then at the same time you also have to blame the Democrats for giving the luxurious pensions to the unions that caused the problems in the first place.

And if you want an example of how the Unions are gouging the taxpayers of NJ you only have to look at the how the Democrats orchestrated the awarding of contracts for road and highway construction. We pay almost twice what it would normally cost because the Dems made it law that the state had to pay the "prevailing" wage, and then they wrote laws that the courts had to interpret that prevailing wage as what a union worker would get. A non-union contractor cannot even submit a bid if he doesn't hire Union workers, even thought hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars spent could be HALVED just by using non-union workers.

My point is that the Democrats are hardly the Lilly white innocents that you are making them out to be. In fact, they are the root cause of most of the money problems we face in NJ. You cannot continue to give freebies to everyone in exchange for their votes to keep you in power. Someone (the working taxpayer) has to pay, somehow, for that largess.
 
I didn't say dems were not a problem. I didn't say anything good about them. I was making the point that the repubes are not what they claim to be either. They are the same sh!t in a different bag.
 
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Y'all see your boy Christie chillin on the beach?

Seen that and thought of y'all.....strange how the universe works.
 
It's time to move to S.C.
Every time there is a election in no they say they are going to lower property tax so I should be paying nothing now s C Is we're going to look
 
When you move down and eventually start telling some 6th generation local how you used to do it up north, just know that even if he doesn't say it, he really doesn't give a ****.

Seriously though, it sucks down here, ask Destroyer.
 
When you move down and eventually start telling some 6th generation local how you used to do it up north, just know that even if he doesn't say it, he really doesn't give a ****.

Seriously though, it sucks down here, ask Destroyer.

I loved St. Mary's... just hated the weather.... too hot, too humid, too miserable. You're a prisoner to A/C ..... A/c house to A/C car to A/C store....Lather, rinse, repeat. Oh.. and lets not forget the fire ants, mosquitoes and gators...
 
And speaking of Murphy or Kim... Seeing the latest on Murphy.. he just said that if elected he'd want to make New Jersey into a "Sanctuary State" for illegal immigrants... much like the California idiots did. So.... he's promised to raise our taxes over i.5 Billion dollars and make New Jersey into a Sanctuary State? Yep... sounds like the kind of person this once great state will elect... <sigh>
 
Well, Murphy won. Congrats to all that voted for him. You deserve and I truly hope you get exactly what he promised you.

NJ is probably going to become a sanctuary state, our taxes will go through the roof, our health care will be administered by the state much like Massachusetts's is, the minimum wage will go to $15, our gun control laws will become even harsher (even though we already are one of the top 5 states with the strictest gun control laws) and what else?.... oh yes, Marijuana will become legal.

I cannot wait for my wife to become eligible for her pension so we can move outta this hellhole.
 
Well, as an update I see that Gov. Murphy just reimposed the individual mandate tax on NJ citizens for Obamacare. That's the one that POTUS canceled. Thank you Gov Murphy for adding another tax on us. ,,l,,
 
Yet another item. 6 weeks ago Gov Murphy quietly signed a law granting free college tuition to illegal immigrants. They have to grad high school first, or get an equivalency degree, but that'the only requirement. And NO, American citizens, NJ taxpayers, are not eligible for the grant. All we are eligible for it paying for it for people that are breaking the law by being in this country illegally. Welcome to Socialism 101. :cen:
 
Yet another item. 6 weeks ago Gov Murphy quietly signed a law granting free college tuition to illegal immigrants. They have to grad high school first, or get an equivalency degree, but that'the only requirement. And NO, American citizens, NJ taxpayers, are not eligible for the grant. All we are eligible for it paying for it for people that are breaking the law by being in this country illegally. Welcome to Socialism 101. :cen:
But don't you feel all warm and gushy inside protecting all them undocumented individuals and providing them sanctuary?

I do hope my sarcasm came through.
 
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