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Willy, thank God for you! I absolutely, 200% agree with everything you just said. I think I'm going to be voting for 'ole Ron Paul. I don't agree with his views on our overseas investments, but his domestic policies are really good. I would have much rather preferred Mike Huckabee for Fairtax views. He actually won 26% of the Rep. vote in the NC primaries several weeks ago.
The only downside to NOT voting is that then the Demacratically controlled congress would be the ones deciding our next Pres. IT's TIME FOR A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!! TAKE UP YOUR ARMS, AND GO INTO THE STREETS IN FRONT OF YOUR LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS AND DEMAND CHANGE IN POLICY AND FAIR REPRESENTAION. THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND CAPITAL HILL. WE CAN NOT TAKE MUCH MORE!!!!!


DON'T TRED ON ME!
 
The thing that really pisses me off regarding elections is our vote doesn't really count for SH!T! The electoral college is the one who's votes really count. The general election is just smoke and mirrors dog and pony show to make us feel important. The electoral college is supposed to follow what the public wants, but when special interest groups fund the electoral college's members how can we expect to get a fair election of what the GENERAL public wants. Hence why we get all of these extremist individuals in office. People of true fortitude don't want to take the riducule of the public because they won't take responsibilty for there actions. Our society wants to point the finger and pass the buck, rather than accept our fate and fix it ourselves.

How many people in the general population accept respopnsibility for there actions anymore? How many people can make there own decisions and live with them? Until we correct our morrals and values, these POS are the ones who will be in control. Unfortunately the majority have become silent, and the minorities have taken over the general voice in this nation.

I sure hope that video of OBAMA'S wife and reverand WRIGHT really exists, and surfaces come OCTOBER.
 
BC, I need to say something, we are a nation of laws, taking up arms is only justified when it is in defense of yourself, your country or the people and constitution of this land.
We need mass marches, peaceful marches on the state and political capitols.
We need to send a message that the current state of our union will not be tolerated by the people anymore. Think of the results of these types of rallies all over the world now think of the results of mass rallies not by a bunch of crazed immigrants demanding things that don't belong to them, not by religous zealots for one belief or another, not by union workers demanding their pay increases or their pension increases, not by anti this or anti that.
Think of the results of the people of this country that never do that, us , the people that work every day and pay for everything this country does. The people who defend her, the people who built her demanding sweeping changes in the street.
To be honest with you it would scare the bejeezus out of them and I guarantee you things would change mighty quick.
You see there was a time in this nation when it was the "us" that stood up and forced changes rather than sit on our collective butts and let the fringe far left or fringe far right set the agenda for our nation.
If and only if the people are trampled while assembling and communicating and the constitution is violated by the government and they become a police state is it time to exercise the rights you have from God, from the people and from what hopefully you have inside of you to remove forcefully those that would desecrate our land and constitution.
That ability to do ( The 2nd Amendment ) exactly that is what goverments the world over have always feared, and it is the reason for the propaganda war against that right.
 
THEFERMANATOR said:
The thing that really pisses me off regarding elections is our vote doesn't really count for SH!T! The electoral college is the one who's votes really count. The general election is just smoke and mirrors dog and pony show to make us feel important. The electoral college is supposed to follow what the public wants, but when special interest groups fund the electoral college's members how can we expect to get a fair election of what the GENERAL public wants. Hence why we get all of these extremist individuals in office. People of true fortitude don't want to take the riducule of the public because they won't take responsibilty for there actions. Our society wants to point the finger and pass the buck, rather than accept our fate and fix it ourselves.

How many people in the general population accept respopnsibility for there actions anymore? How many people can make there own decisions and live with them? Until we correct our morrals and values, these POS are the ones who will be in control. Unfortunately the majority have become silent, and the minorities have taken over the general voice in this nation.

I sure hope that video of OBAMA'S wife and reverand WRIGHT really exists, and surfaces come OCTOBER.
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I understand what your saying but when was the last time if ever that the electoral college voted opposite of what their state voted for. I'm aware that Gore won the popolar vote but the electorals still voted according to their states votes and thats how Bush won. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't remember anytime they over road how the people of their state voted. The biggest problem with doing away with alectorals is that a great number of states would get ignored and not have any say in electing our president.
 
Good points Willy, but do you not think the constitution is not being violated by the current laws our elected leaders have put in place? I seem to remember taxation without representation was the reason for the revolutionary war against England correct? Well, I believe we are at that point now. I have written countless letters and made the same number of telephone calls to all of my representatives about many issues over the years, and have not seen or gotten a response from any of them actually addressing the problems. It's always the same 'ole letter saying that "these issues need to be further investigated". We the People have no representation anymore. If you can tell me the last time the "people" made a stand and our government listened, I'll gladly agree with you. People march in huge numbers at our capital everyday, and nothing ever comes of it other than being a pain in the rear for politicians as they walk to work. They are beyond HAVING to listen to us. In their own minds they have no responsibilty to "Us". And that is our own faults because intelligent people don't exercise their priviledge to vote. The entire house of reps. can be completely voted out every two years. The ENTIRE house! But people are so stupid that they keep voting the same people back in year after year. They don't demand term limits for these positions. Every bill that goes through congress HAS to start in the House. And we have the ability to clean house EVERY TWO YEARS!! It might make a difference if we voted out even half of those idiots, but it will NEVER happen. People are too apathetic to do that.
The politicians are too good at the game now, and it is because we have allowed it. We made this problem, and the problem is we have not held those responsible to blame. We let them keep their jobs year after year until they die. They might as well be Supreme Court Justices. Marching may work for some things, but when we get into it as deep as we are, the only choice of action is to take action and cast off the oppresive tyrants that suppress the people's voice and force laws that govern all aspects of life. "DON"T TRED ON ME!" This was the reason for the civil war. So, to back up my point, our country has already gone to arms over the same issues....twice. Once against England over taxation, and once with ourselves for the overstepping of the federal government into our personal freedoms, and forcing laws on the people without proper representation.
 
BC I appreciate the frustration, the pain, believe me I do. But you are stating what the problem is and reiterating what I said. We don't have to march, use force or anything else besides pull a lever.
That is why for example I am ashamed of my home state the Peoples Republic of NJ. They are voting in people that are in a nut shell Marxist's.
They vote them in over and over. They are actually quite ignorant, or basically socialists themselves at heart or are voting for the one issue that is their favorite and could care less about the affect.
The majority in fact in this country are going that way, in one of those three basic groups.
Just for a moment step back and look what is about to declare victory in the democratic/socialist party primary for President of the U.S.A.
For his entire adult life in spite of what this countyr has offered him in way of freedoms education and oppurtunity he and his wife are ashamed of the US. They have assosiated with the lowest forms of life in our country, devout racists, publicly devout racists. Confirmed, admitted and unrepentent terrorists. Would not wear an American flag lapel, did not feel it was right.
Hundreds of thousands of men that have fought and died for that flag, my father, your fathers and grandfathers. Can you imagine for a moment if a presidential candidate had said something like that, or assosiated with people like that and our fathers and grandfathers found out.
My Sweet Lord he would have been tossed out on his ear with a good asswhuppin included and the party who promoted him would have been disgraced.
Look at the democratic party now disgusting. How a thinking reasoning man or woman could identify themselves as Americans and associate themselves with what was once a great party but has now deterioated to a socialst organization and would dishonor every American by putting that piece of crap in possible position to be the commander and chief of the U.S.A is absolutely beyond my comprehension.
The fact that there has not been a mass exodus from that party says a lot.


You want to know who to blame I have seen the enemy and it is us.
 
Two words:

TERM LIMITS.

When I was a kid my parents were registered Democrats. They felt, as did many, that Democrats were looking out for the working man. Now, Democrats as well as Republicans, they're looking out for only themselves, specifically the perpetuation of their careers as politicians. It's all about re-election, which means it's about posturing themselves to the highest bidders, and accepting the bribes, er, contributions of lobbyists.

Am I cynical, or just being realistic? Both, I think.

But as long as we keep electing career politicians, we'll keep getting "the government we deserve." (Ben Franklin)
 
I agree we are our own worst enemy. Our socialist government schools are training pod people. And these pod people are the perfect tool for politicians to stay in power. Everyone is so wrapped up in who's doing who in Hollywood and what Paris Hilton is doing, that no one has a clue to what the facts of this nation are. When I speak about taking up arms, I'm really joking, but I just want to make a point that our for-fathers have been to war over some of the exact issues we are dealing with right now. The real point is that over half the country is more apt to vote for the next American Idol than our commander-in-chief. The real power of the people lies with our house of representatives, and our ability to change them if they don't represent us. Why don't people care?!?!?!?

Term limits are also one way to go.... good luck with that though.
 
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