Considering something STUPID!

i haven't ridden in a Scepter, but I've ridden in a 233 Formula and a 23 SeaCraft center, I'd have to give the edge to the SeaCraft.
 
Well I went and looked at the FORMULA today as me and the wife needed a day away from my family. It isn't as nice in person as the pictures make it out to be cosmetically, but for the most part it is structurally sound. He redid the rear 1/3 of the deck and glassed the deck directly to the transom all the way across, but he only put in 1 knee brace right in the middle. The stringers in it all sounded solid via the tap test, but he glassed the drains over in the cabin storage compartments and the one was filled with water and had been sitting that way. Also he didn't use any 5200 on the bow rail and water has been seeping down around the mounting bolts all the way through into the cabin, so it's only a matter of time before the rotting begins in the front deck. Also he didn't re-inforce the starboard rear lifting hook and it has pushed the transom in about 3/4" over about a 8"X10" area as it is a lift kept boat. He did alot of nice work, but neglected alot of basic parts of the rebuild as well. All and all it's a nice FORMULA, but definately not a concourse rebuild. I'll probably go and look at the SEACRAFT this week as well since it is a running boat for $6500 now.
 
I've been working on a 25 Hydra simular to the one you posted for a custmer of mine, that thing is a tank, and the cockpit is huge(full transom bracket boat). The cabin is a little weird, but its pretty big. I haven't spent any time in a 250 Wellcraft, so I don't know much about them, but it looks like you are stepping up beyond the 23 Formula/Seacraft size with this latest list.

I don't know if this one is still available, but its near by(me) and priced right

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/showthread.php?t=13166
 
These are just a few that I found that looked like good deals. The final decision maker for me on the FORMULA was the fact that he told me he redid the boat in 07 with the new transom, deck, stringers, bracket, and paint. Yet when I got there and looked at it the sticker on it expired in 4-06. Now how do you completely redo a boat as well as paint it, and then put a sticker on that expired a year before you say you did the work? The SEACRAFT is pretty high on my list of likes though, and I would really like to find a 2350 PURSUIT or 2350 HYDRASPORTS as the 25 models just need to much HP to push em and be gentle on fuel.
 
Ferm, I like the Pursuit , very solid , I owned one once -But- The deck gets all kinds of wet in sloppy seas with four men on board. That was my first boat that got a bracket and a full transom job. The Wellcraft 23 Cuddy looks sweet. Good luck shopping. Prices are reasonable. If it is just the marinized toilet you need for Mrs. Ferm I got a Whaler for sale.LOL Price range, well, not as good as some.
 

I'm trying to get in touch with the guy on the SEACRAFT now, but also found a NICE looking HYDRA-SPORTS 21 footer with a factory bracket. I've also considered calling this guy up and getting the low down on it.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/1501992548.html

I tell you what has caught my eye big time, I think Ferm even complimented the gent on another site

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/256468-1970-25-bertram-flybridge-11-500-va.html

I would LOVE to be able to get a boat like this one, but by the time I get a trailer to haul it I know it would be outside my budget even after selling my 2 boats I have now.
 
I have been talking with him, lots of mods on that boat which has me a little concerned. It was originally a twin I/O converted to a bracket boat and then back to a single I/O.
That always scares me when you don't know the quality of the work done by multiple re-works and hidden under glass and paint.
I like that style of boat though, comfortable to run in all day in any weather, ride like a dream in most seas and still be economical the way it is set up.
Plus like our V's, it looks like a classic boat that gets the job done and done well.
 
The 25 BERTRAM is a timeless classic right up there with the 23 FORMULA and it's big brother the 31 BERTRAM. A trailerable 25 footer with a 10 foot beam and a 24 degree dead-rise hull that can be powered by a single I/O and still run good speed and milage numbers is hard to beat. And even though it is built on the 24 degree dead-rise hull like the FORMULA is, it doesn't rock and roll and then throw you due to the wide beam and the lapstrake hull design. The guy with the SEACRAFT called me back so I'm probably gonna go take a look at it when the wife gets home.
 
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