CANT TURN !!

hammer, I'm not 100 % sure but I think the grease fitting on the underside is just for the tilt or pivot from the bracket to the motor.....I don't think it will grease the steering arm [???]
 
Phester's right the grease nipple doesn't lube the inside of the tilt tube . . . which is what the steering rod travels through. The only way to lube this is to pull the steering out. There's an o-ring under those end nuts that are suppose to seal the grease in . . . after a while the o0rings fail and the grease dries up. The steering get real tight. To fix this . . . you have to ream out the tube.

The #1 solution is hydraulic steering . . . but that's some bucks. Probably $350 on ebay for a used helm, cylinder and a pair lines.

If you want to continue to use mechanical steering . . . I have the external ride glide mount that will bolt onto the front of that motor (4 bolts) and you can adjust the steering . . . by adjusting the length of the tube.
 
Bigshrimp:
Dont know if the motor was like this when I got it or not in Dec. The motor was winterized and then never touched during the winter until now.
Whats this tube thing you are talking about that you have ?
You have a picture ?
 
Hold on Hammer. Take a 9/16 wrench out to the boat. Undo the nut where the steering link connects to the cable coming out of the tilt tube. After that is undone, see if the motor moves freely side to side. Now see if the wheel turns freely. Now measure the steering link from mounting point to mounting point in a straight line. I'm going home now and I'll measure mine. Check your email for my cell # and call me.

Airslot
 
Looks like its almost fixed. I shot it full of WD-40 and wiped things down to really see what I was looking at. I should degreese the whole engine down, but unsure about taking a hose to the motor afterwards and short things out with my luck.
I took Airslots and Bigshrimp advice and looked around. Bigshrimp mentioned a bracket of some sort you can add, I like to see what you got. Picture if you can. I took off the top arm and the motor moved freely from side to side. I then seen a second place to where I can mount that top control arm. By relocating the arm farther back, it made the motor turn more. Not all the way, but better. My control is 11" and it looks like I need something in the 13 1/2 range, but looking at one of the pictures, I only have 1 1/2 of play left before that sliding arm hits the transom. So it looks like something around 12 1/2 " in a longer arm or see about this type of free glide adapter that Shrimp mentioned. Here are some pics and you can see where I managed to get more turn .
Thanks again for the tips. Tips are so much cheaper then the $85.00 an hour repair shop. ;D
Before Pic.

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The above picture shows the tube arm all the way exstended. Notice I only have about 1 1/2" before it hits the side of the boat.
 
Picture of moving the control arm farther back to a second hole that I found. Its amazing was happens when you spray $hit down and teh things you find ;D

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MSB - That's better but it might be a PIA to dock the boat w/ you steering in that state.

This is the kit I was talking about . . . where you can bolt on this new tube. It's designed for dual cables, but work just fine with one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4643391098&fromMakeTrack=true

There is still something wrong . . . were you ever able to get a full range of motion while you owned the boat?

I don't know much about mechanical steering except for how to rip it out!!! but you should really get to the bottom of the problem, so you don't end up trying to hold the engine straight in 3ft seas (cause your steering cable/helm crapped out).
 
I suspect that your stearing travel problem is not at the motor end but at the helm. Turn the wheel stop to stop and count the turns. It should be about 4 but you should be able to find out exactly what it should be from the manufacturer. Then turn it all the way one way and then turn it back half the # of turns. This should be your centered position.
 
SHrimp:
Thanks for the pic. But the part looks differnt from the part on E-Bay. The part on E-Bay, is that a exstension bar or tube that connects to the steering bar on my motor ?
This is something I can add without disconnecting the steering cable ?
Thanks.
 
Shrimp:
Just looked on the control arm and didnt see any numbers. The control arm that I have is approx. 11"
Looks like I might need a arm that is 12.5 inches long.
Not unless that part on E-Bay takes care of the problem.
 
Hammer, I think you've got it about where it's going to be. From what I can recall mine turns further one way than the other but the difference isn't very much. I bet when you get a chance to try it out that you can manuver it just fine.

Good luck,

Airslot
 
Airslot: what are you doing online so early in the morning. Your suposed to be outside warming up that Gas Grill. ;D ;D ;D ;D
You should be out in the Boat !!!
Thanks for the call last night.
 
Man, I just got done cooking 1,200 Hamburgers, hotdogs, bratwurst, and Chicken breast. I'm fried. Now I've got 3 hours office work getting ready for tommorrow. I can't wait till Labor Day.

Airslot
 
i think i know what it is cause i did the same thing
where the steeriring link in front off the motor is connected you have it on the last hole what you have to do [if you look ]at the steering arm there should be another hole set back about 3 inches you have to move it to that hole
it might be rusted so get out your penetrating oil and let it soak the hole is right under the shroud but you have enough romm to get it in
 
Hammer, hope relocatin' the steerin' arm helps, but it MIGHT make it harder to steer as you are losing some leverage by going closer to the engine's pivot point...you'll just have to experiment...if you force that ram back thru the tube, get ALL the corrosion build-up off the ram first...it probably won't go back thru w/ out cleanin' and if it does, it'll score the pi$$ outta the tube...you gotta get that corrosion off the ram to see what you got for steerin'...it's causin' you to lose some of your steerin'... ;) :) ...
 
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