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Has anyone been able to get a 4- stroke to work out on a v-20 cc .
My wife wants to get rid of her v-20 Cuddy and get a cc - she needs a 4-stroke !
 
I have a 150 merc 4S on a cuddy and love it. Not sure why the center console would be much different. You don't say if its a 20 or 25 inch transom. I went from a 150 2S so i gained about 60-70 lbs. it does sit a little lower.

There was a guy on here that ran a center console with a merc 4S as a stone crab boat and he had good things to say about it
 
ther are a few 225 and 250 optis on center consoles with brackets so a 200HP 4cyl verado would be the same weight should work just fine.
 
chart said:
ther are a few 225 and 250 optis on center consoles with brackets so a 200HP 4cyl verado would be the same weight should work just fine.
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Ya, agreed, but remember that those brackets usually contain flotation to help offset the additional weight towards the rear. Weight is going to be the limiting factor, whether it's for a cuddy or a center console.
 
Personally, I think your best bet would be the 200 hp Yamaha four stroke 4 cylinder that weighs in at 480 lbs, followed by the 175 Yamaha, 150 Yamaha/150 Mercury. The V20' s seem to operate best with the 150-200 hp range. Some have higher hp but raraely take advantage of its performance. If you are running in salt water, I cant recommend a Suzuki, they build good engines, but their aluminum doesn't hold up well. They have suposably improved their aluminum. The Honda engines aren't even close with weight, price, performance or holding up to salt. Surprisingly, the etec engines offer very little advantage in weight savings over the four strokes in the optimum hp for a v 20. I cant speak for their reliability as there are so few in this area that I have no experience with them. If you are considering buying new, my suggestion is to find the best dealer that you'll be dealing with, and see what options in engines they offer

Dry weights
F150 thru F200 4 cylinder Yamaha 480-491lbs
3.3 V6 Yamaha 200/225/250 602lbs
4.2L V6 Yamaha 250-300 571 lbs
Mercury 150 4s 455 lbs
Mercury Verado 175-200 510 lbs
Suzuki 4 cylinder 150, 175, 200 530 lbs
Suzuki 4 cylinder 140 395 lbs
Johnson Evinrude small block etec 150-200 500 lbs
Jonson Evinrude big block etec 200-300 507 lbs
 
To add onto what spare posted for comparison.
The old 2 stroke merc 60 degree 135-200hp engines weighed in from 370-390lbs. I believe the 3.0l 200-250hp mercs were around 450-470lbs.
For johnson/evinrude, the old 85-140 cross flow engines weighed around 300-310lbs, the 120-140 loopers were around 380lbs iirc, and the 200/225hp were 450-470lbs.
Not sure on yamahas, but I believe they were very close tothe others for the most part, and suzuki was right thete with them at 470lbs for there v-6's, and low 300's for thefe inline 4 cylinder's.

These weights are for the carbed and basic efi engines, not the dfi's.
 
Dry weight on a 150 through 200 small block ETEC with a 25 inch leg is 433 pounds.

Much better throttle response, time to plane, and general overall handling. Ive only run yamahas though, cant comment on the others.

I would only use a bracket if she was a full transom model to begin with due to close quarter handling, less weight, and less rigging.

I agree that the relationship with your dealer is key.
 
bradford said:
Dry weight on a 150 through 200 small block ETEC with a 25 inch leg is 433 pounds.

Much better throttle response, time to plane, and general overall handling. Ive only run yamahas though, cant comment on the others.

I would only use a bracket if she was a full transom model to begin with due to close quarter handling, less weight, and less rigging.

I agree that the relationship with your dealer is key.
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the weight I posted was for the g2, you are correct on the standard small block.
 
I have a 140hp suzuki on mine. I get unbelivable fuel burn and she will flat out fly! I fish and average of 3 guys per trip with coolers,ice and gear. More than enough motor for me. If i went back with a motor right now it would be a 150hp suzuki. All the speed my v20 needs and gets great fuel economy.
 
Kracker Jack said:
I have a 140hp suzuki on mine. I get unbelivable fuel burn and she will flat out fly! I fish and average of 3 guys per trip with coolers,ice and gear. More than enough motor for me. If i went back with a motor right now it would be a 150hp suzuki. All the speed my v20 needs and gets great fuel economy.
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I have same motor...exact same comments...
 
The only negative I have heard about Suzuki is corrison because the the aluminum they use ????? Any info on that ??
 
do a tag search here on DF140 for info on a specific problem they had years ago.
It was not a problem with "the aluminum".
I can tell you that, while I did have the specific problem detailed in my other thread, my motor is now 13 years old and has 1100 hrs and has no problem with the aluminum. It is used hard, in salt. I would replace it with a DF150 in a heartbeat when the time comes.

Also, I believe Yamaha had a similar exhaust manifold corrosion problem in certain models... and Mercurys just plain suck....:you:

Just kidding, listen, every brand has had its problems. I really like Yamaha and Suzuki 4 strokes and zukis cost a few $1000s less.

IMHO V20s match perfectly with 150 four strokes, unless you're on a big flat lake and can run at 50mph, then a 200 makes sense
 
Suzuki has ALWAYS had problems with there aluminum. I'm not knocking them as I actually like SUZUKI's and have reccomended them, BUT you must be aware that there aluminum has always been on the poor side, and corrosion plagued. I'm actually not a big Yamaha fan, but theres one on the back of my skiff because I know they make a quality engine, they hold up, use better aluminum, and have taken measures to stop corrosion from becoming an issue. Suzuki on the other hand is still known for corrosion problems in high salinity areas or don't get flushed religously. And flushing is no guarantee either. I've seen engines that had the best care in the world end up being junked once they needed the 1st work because there was just nothing left inside for gaskets to seal too.
 
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Suzuki has ALWAYS had problems with there aluminum. I'm not knocking them as I actually like SUZUKI's and have reccomended them, BUT you must be aware that there aluminum has always been on the poor side, and corrosion plagued. I'm actually not a big Yamaha fan, but theres one on the back of my skiff because I know they make a quality engine, they hold up, use better aluminum, and have taken measures to stop corrosion from becoming an issue. Suzuki on the other hand is still known for corrosion problems in high salinity areas or don't get flushed religously. And flushing is no guarantee either. I've seen engines that had the best care in the world end up being junked once they needed the 1st work because there was just nothing left inside for gaskets to seal too.
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this, i agree 100% and work on them daily
 
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