2006 150 Optimax $8500 (NOS)

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reyb

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What do you guys think? It supposedly still has a 4yr(?) warranty once installed.
I was originally targeting a '09 Suzuki DF140 but I can't find one *anywhere* :(
This Optimax is local, 25" and includes controls.

Thanks,

Rey
 
$7k/obo seems like a decent deal. If it was closer to me, then I would seriously consider
it. Are you going to go for it? 2002 Yamaha 150 not working out for you? I understand
that warranties are transferrable but I wonder how that works? I would think another PDI
would be needed.
 
Yamaha is gone, she gave out on me about a month ago. Not sure on the repower as I am looking at an entire new rig. Might go look at a Grady this weekend.

-Svence
 
Supposed to be one of the best engines out there, based on what people I know involved in boating for years tell me. And that is coming from someone who has never been a Merc fan, me.
Sounds like a good price to, how does it compare in your region, that makes a difference.
 
Price comparison I haven't a clue. There's not a lot of NOS being sold that I"m aware of. My search for prices shows the following:

o '09 Yamaha 25" 150 at $7k

o '09 Optimax 25" 150 at $9.6k

I didn't bother looking at 4-stroke prices as I figured it's apples and oranges. My readings
seem to indicate that the optimax is a good motor, has more moving parts than normal
and gets decent mpg. However, I wasn't really able to narrow down some of these
data point the the 2006 model which is available to me. I'm hoping ferm, spare, skool and ?
will also chime in with their wealth of experience with regards to this motor. :)
 
The optimax is really a great motor, but you have to compare it with an HPDI yamaha and not just with the 150 2 stroke. The optimax is also very fuel efficient.
 
the opti is a very good motor, and just like any other direct injected outboard, get rid of it before the warranty runs out. You can total loss the value of an Opti(or any dfi engine) with out any internal engine damage, they have a lot of high dollar stuff bolted on the outside(injectors are over $300). If it were me( And I really like Mercs), I'd be looking for one of those NOS 150 Yamaha Carb motors,you can't beat them for reliability, and any fuel cunsuption cost differences can be wiped out by the price of a tune up and service($$$$). Ed's has the 20" 150 for $7000, the 25" for $7500, you ought to be able to find a volume dealer that can get one of the west coast for a simular price.
 
me three, I don't know how much more efficient a opti would be but my 92 150 yammie carb sips gas pretty nice. Its 19 years old and the only thing it has needed is regular tune ups in the spring and winter close downs. Though I did have to just replace the Tstats and I will be doing a carb job this winter.
Not bad for a 19 year old motor in salt its whole life.
 
For the life of me I couldn't decifer it! LOL

How come it's only 4 years. Isn't Merc. running the 5 year warranty deal now?

Wouldn't bother me since they are providing warranty anyway.
 
The guy that has the motor wasn't sure about the warranty so that's why I put "(?)" :)

Regarding what Spares said about a total loss w/out an internal damage, I read the same
thing. The bolt on parts aren't cheap. I don't like the idea of having to think about getting
rid of the motor before the warranty is up.
 
Opti power is nice. That 150hp is a seven cylinder. 6 burn fuel one pumps air. The fuel burn is like the 4-strokes but not as quiet, I agree they are costly in repairs out of warranty but they all are. I have a 2001 Opti 225 with 500 hrs. I swear it burns less fuel than my 90 Johnson carb motor.
Willy, I hate to burst bubble but my Opti uses half the fuel of the carb motors or the EFI motors in the same hp.
I believe the Opti to be a good direct injected motor but there is no way it will last like the carb motors of yesteryear. Most carb motors have 1600 hours in them (conservatively) before they need to be freshened up, rebuild it and go for another 1600. I have heard of captains that got 2500 hours with their carb motors, all brands. Recreational boaters have to boat a lot in a year to reach 100 hours.
 
no doubt Ridge, did not mean to imply that there would not be a difference, don't believe i did. I do say that the difference is not worth to me anyhow, the cost of purchase and the cost of any repairs, and when I throw in the incredible longevity I don't believe there is any comparison.
 
RidgeRunner said:
Opti power is nice. That 150hp is a seven cylinder. 6 burn fuel one pumps air. The fuel burn is like the 4-strokes but not as quiet, I agree they are costly in repairs out of warranty but they all are. I have a 2001 Opti 225 with 500 hrs. I swear it burns less fuel than my 90 Johnson carb motor.
Willy, I hate to burst bubble but my Opti uses half the fuel of the carb motors or the EFI motors in the same hp.
I believe the Opti to be a good direct injected motor but there is no way it will last like the carb motors of yesteryear. Most carb motors have 1600 hours in them (conservatively) before they need to be freshened up, rebuild it and go for another 1600. I have heard of captains that got 2500 hours with their carb motors, all brands. Recreational boaters have to boat a lot in a year to reach 100 hours.
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This is my friend's cat we used to go to the Gulf Stream in regularly...1999 model Optis and when he passed away earlier this year, these motors had 2,000 hours on 'em. A typical trip was push away at 4 a.m., 60-70 miles out of Charleston, troll all day, then return to the dock...on 90 or so gals reg gas...that's running 26kts at 3500 rpms out and back, then REDLINE it up the ditch for a 1/2 mile back to the marina...he ran 'em, but babied 'em too
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GOOD motors!!...
 
willy said:
no doubt Ridge, did not mean to imply that there would not be a difference, don't believe i did. I do say that the difference is not worth to me anyhow, the cost of purchase and the cost of any repairs, and when I throw in the incredible longevity I don't believe there is any comparison.
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You didn't imply, I was just commenting about your fuel sipping Yamaha. Even though it sips the new generation motors sip so much less it is incredible. I couldn't agree more about the longevity of the carb motors. So much so I am hedging my bet. I have an older 250EFI on my 20 right now, it was really not for the 20 in the first place, it is going to replace the 225 Opti on the Whaler whenever it goes south. The 250 EFI has a much less complicated injection system that is easy to work on and bolts right up to the midsection on the Opti. The Whaler has a 160 gallon tank which will be necessary when the switch happens the 250 burns a lot more fuel.
 
This is my friend's cat we used to go to the Gulf Stream in regularly...1999 model Optis and when he passed away earlier this year, these motors had 2,000 hours on 'em. A typical trip was push away at 4 a.m., 60-70 miles out of Charleston, troll all day, then return to the dock...on 90 or so gals reg gas...that's running 26kts at 3500 rpms out and back, then REDLINE it up the ditch for a 1/2 mile back to the marina...he ran 'em, but babied 'em too-- Reel
Sweet boat...
Those were the early model Opti's, the newer ones are supposed to be even better. I think 3500 to 4000 is the sweet spot on MPG. Sorry for the passing of a fishin buddy, that sucks. I wonder what repairs he had to make, 2000 hours is a lot.
Cyress Gardens used mid range motors on their pontoon boats, mostly 90hp OMC, and they had it down to a science. They would change the motors out after 1800 hours. I bought one, the pistons were so sloppy in the bore the rings caught the porting, broke and messed the heads up after another 20 hours of use. A charter boat captain out of Mosquito Lagoon has a 250xs opti that is only six months old that has been in the shop four times for eating coil packs. It is his second or third Opti, he still loves them but he was not happy with the down time. I have heard of so many powerheads replaced under warranty, I hope mine lives for another 500 hours or so. LOL If I was only so lucky.
 
another thing to know regarding any of the newer style engines(2 stroke and 4 stroke) is that the manufactures are not treating fuel issues under warranty, any trash or water, and clogged injectors, fuel pumps that are stuck up, all related to bad fuel and or sitting up without proper treatment, all not covered. Opti injectors are around $300, it takes 12 for a V6, 6 fuel, and 6 air(yes, they go bad also), they can be cleaned for around $80 each. Fuel pressure regulators on the fuel rail are not servaceable, they include the fuel rail(around $1300). The platinum plugs are $29 each, plus you can put over $100 of filters(air and fuel) at your next tune up. Now throw HPDI's in the ring, high pressure fuel pumps are over $1000, I can't find any one to clean(and guarantee) HPDI injectors, Injectors are over $300 each(only 6 to mess with). Electric fuel pumps are over $600(fourstroke also), the high pressure fuel filter was over $300, dealers complained about it so much they dropped the price to around $120(?, I haven't had to replace one lately), still pretty high. Add in DFI oil($35-$45a gal), adn ring free or carbon guard(highly recomended) at $20 per 100 gal. These things get real expensive,real quick. They can save you a lot on fuel, but they will eat you alive on other issues. I looked at a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke the other day, it wouldn't shut off, you could unplug the harness and it would keep running, you could lightly tap the computer and it would shut off, guess what, $1300 for the computer. lately, teh most expensive things I've been seeing is trim systems, just worked on a Johnzuki, had over $850 in parts on the trim system( '03 140 fourstroke), put a trim motor on a 225 yamaha, $580 for the motor. Makes me like the old 2 strokes better and better, Of course, these new motors are what keeps me in business
 
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