1980 Welcraft Retail Price List

You could make two packages available:

The "MJ" package has all Starboard accents, pulpit, access hatches, tack boxes, etc.  A fishing machine.

The "Emmit" package has all teak and is more of a mix between cruising, family use, and fishing.
 
BR...can't believe it...I had a '67 17' T-Bird when I got my V20...had a 140 Rude...whadda great boat, but just wanted bigger when I found the V20... ;D...

I've also heard the pop-a-hull story...that was a hull worthy of being copied!...

let's say we got a final V20 design, have the molds made...who among us KNOWS how to gel-coat and lay-up and all...here's where we CANNOT scrimp....this is where a reputation can make or break...we need somebody who REALLY KNOWS how to do this and not get spider-cracking and all the common fiberglass probs we all hear about...

We certainly can't use Wellcraft name...MIGHT be able to use V20 if it's not registered or copywrited...IF we can use V20...how's this sound..."The V20 Tribute"...naaa!....

Yeah, let's take that Grady tour...might pick up some pointers... ;)...
 
RAP - you are lyin - there's no way you had a 67ft T-bird 17 footer before you went V20. Norfolk-and-way! That's too creepy. I've said before that we think alike about certain things.

Mine's a '68. You don't see many of them. In fact, I've never seen one that looked like mine.

It truly is an amazing hull. I took it to Murrell's last weekend with a buddy. One day we had 25mph winds blowing 1-2 ft chop across and against the top of 3ft swells and my little 17 (70hp) jumped right on top of that crap - never, EVER, has gotten me wet.

In the 5 years I've owned it I've only taken 1 wave over the front (down at Hatteras Inlet - can you say "SCARY") which was about 7ft high. Actually, the wave didn't come over...it was after we went over the wave the front of the boat slammed down nose first on the backside and water came over the front but just rolled around the windsheild and down the side.

I'll miss that boat once I have my V20 ready. Best boat I've every owned.

You still got yours? Bet it would really haul with that 140! My 70 pushes mine over 30.
 
BR, if I'm lyin' I'm dyin'...boat had a trough down the gunwales from the bow-deck to the transom...we called it the pi$$in' trough...we took that boat 35 miles outta Charleston w/a hand-held GPS...went TO a wreck...caught fish and headed back...SILK til 5 miles out then all HE_L broke loose!...takin' breakers OVER the WINDSHIELD...took my hat off my head, but that hull shed water and popped back up like it was solid CORK... :o...

Rode like a DREAM in reasonably rough water too...as amazing a 17'er as the V20 is a 20'er... ;D...
 
Yep, mine has the pissin trough too! LOL

35 miles - '67 17fter :o

RAP you are lucky to be here to tell about it! That and you've got some extremely large reproductive organs ;D
 
Lets get back to planning the boat. It's gonna be built by commity. That could be good or it could be bad. I have a few requests. A full transom center console with a bracket and single outboard. Hawse pipes in the corners - live bait well in the transome, salt water wash down - stainless steel rod holders - 6 of them if you please. get rid of all the norton snaggers. Real scuppers and plastic - not wood hatch covers. I'm still in by the way
 
I would like to keep my saddle bag gas tanks, and add a third tank were the I/O would go.

I would like my floor fish tanks insulated and plumped to the bildge.
 
because with the floor tank you don't get the 2 in floor fish box's, And I love mine!! I can hold 100 pounds + ice in each one. Thats 200 pounds of fish not taking up floor space!!
But they are not insulated so the ice goes kind of quick.

See I use my boat for commercial fishing, and I need the space.
 
makes sense to me. But if we mad a centerconsole, we could put in a big fish box in the forward section in front of the console, insulated of course, and expand the indeck box (like I have) back to the engine box area. Fill the rest with foam
 
Well, looks like we'll have several models to choose from...CC, cuddy fisher and cuddy cruiser...all w/ full transoms, aluminum w/flotation brackets...I'm thinkin' reconfigure transom to include BIG built-in bait tank recirculating AND raw water, 60 gal belly tank w/ rod holders in gunwales...CC has a bench w/ built-in tackle drawers...cuddy fisher has Capt chairs on boxes w/ built-in tackle drawers...cruiser same except coolers instead of tackle drawers...

83 seems to have been a good year to base this boat on, but we gotta make dash w/ big electronics room to mount...

Bimini standard, curtains optional...

lots more to think about, but one standard throughout all models...QUALITY construction, fit and finish...gotta be right or see MJ's description of Wellcraft's reintro attempt...it's all for nothing if we scrimp on QUALITY... ;)...
 
looks like we are already started. We know where to get the mold made. Now we have to hire someone experienced with building a boat. Still gotta figure out the core material for stringers and deck. Maybe we should each take an engineering task and work on them. One guy figures out the plumbing requirements - bilge pumpa, wash down, baitwell, etc and put a parts list together. One guy does wiring, another does fuel system and then we get them together and post them here for approval, the more eyes the better. I could do the wiring/electrial stuff.....
 
I work at PR/IR Firm and could help in some marketing and press if this actually came to something.  I wonder if something like this has ever been done - outside of boating community even. Great example of the power of the Internet, community, and pulling different people together from various backgrounds with a common interest.  Great consumer PR angles, not just boating....

Seperately, check out this site, I have been watching him build this boat for a while. He advertises on boats.com.  

http://www.avidboats.com/

The key thing about this approach is he designed the boat and is taking orders before he actually made the hull.  
 
I liked that guy's slogan:

"Where technology meets tradition"

Hey for the center console model I could help out with marketing too. I bought the web domain www.centerconsole.com a couple years ago but I've yet to put a site up. I imagine it gets a certain amount of traffic without even advertising. I've always wanted to use it as a one stop shop for people looking to buy/sell new and used center console boats. I'm just too friggin busy to develop my dreams. Heck, I got too many dreams!
 
$3000 for the mold. But we are going to need at few mold's!!
One for the hull,
one for the CC cap,
and one for the Cuddy Cap,
Then the Molds for the floor, seat boxes, and anything else we want to mass produce.

Then were are we going to build this thing??

going to need like $500,000 just to get going!! and thats the cheap side of things!

ButI like it
 
It may just be cheaper to see if wellcraft will sell the old molds and rights to the boat . They bought it back in 1970 and have made the boat for almost 10 years .
 
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