Who's running a 200hp outboard?

chesapeake724

chesapeake724

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I have to repower from a 175hp and due to availability, it looks like I end up going 150hp or 200hp. There have already been threads on 150hp performance, so I was seeing if anyone had a 200hp?

How does it affect how the boat sits in the water?
Any safety/strength concerns with the transom?
What prop do you run?
Basically seeing if you can relate anything from experience about running that much power.

Thanks!
 
same prop as your 175. RPM's won't change but speed will. The motors weigh the same since both are same size lenght and V6's. will use a little less fuel on plane due to work less to keep you riding.
 
I've run a 92' V-20 CC w/ a 200 hp merc (2001 carbed) and it was a great setup. Topped out just across 50 from memory and cruised low 30 just loafin along. No problems weight wise. Most of the V's were rated 235 I think.

Airslot
 
Pipe Dream's gotta 200 Yammer HPDI ...think his got pretty good pep to it...

Which motor you talkin' about?...200 4-stroke or 200 2-stroke?...E-Tec 200 small-block about lightest 200 around these days..."I'm gonna catch that horse if I can..." 8)
 
Thanks, guys. I figured since it's a V-6 already on there, that there wouldn't be much difference. I won't know until spring/summer what my budget is, but I'm figuring a new e-tec or 4-stroke won't be do-able. There are some deals on used 140 and 150hp strokers that might be within range, but for the same or more often less money, it looks like I can get a freshly rebuilt/later model 2-stroke (be it carbed, EFI, DI) with 200hp. We'll see after tax-return time. ;)
 
I'm very happy with mine. I came up from a worn out OMC commercial 155 hp. I didn't go the 200 4-stroke route mostly because of weight -- the price difference was negligible. The stern sits slightly lower with the 200, and there is a difference in the handling -- not bad different, just different. I notice it most in a cross wind situation, and have thought about adding trim tabs but probably won't.

Of course the 200 does shoot the boat out and up on plane in a heartbeat, and probably added 12 mph to her top speed. But the beauty (to me) is being able to loaf along at 30-35 and feel like she's not working hard at all. And I'm burning less fuel than I did with the 155. Coming up from a 175 you might not see that much difference, but it's a world of difference for the Pipe Dream. ;D
 
Ches, whats up w/ the 175 ? If you're new motor shopping,the prognosis probably is'nt too good....go w/ the 200,I have a 150 Johnson which is just fine, but I'd sure like another 50 ponies.
 
When I was looking for a motor and came across my 175, the guy also had a 200 I was thinking about. he said was the same weight , evenn the same mortor!! They make the difference with carbs and exhust.
You will be fine!!
 
chesapeake724:

I run a 235 hp on a 26" setback bracket and the boat handles it fine. I run a 14.25 inch, 19 pitch 4 bladed prop and get 43 mph (GPS verified) at 5100 rpm. BUT the old crossflow ponies burns 23-24 gallons an hour doing it! After reading the thread on 150 HP performance numbers I'm a little envious and would much rather have a 150 if repowering.

"Getting on plane quickly is nice, burning less gas while doing it - Priceless!"

Kamikaze
 
Thanks, MJ

phes'
The Johnny's been acting up lately. The last time out, I was running nicely all day. Then halfway through making a little two mile run, there was a gradual decline in rpm's before dying. Tried for a maybe 45 mins. to get it going, and while on the phone w/ TowBoat, it magically fired up. It cut out when I tried to put it in gear but started right back up. Tried to get the anchor pulled so I could just rev it, throw it in gear and make a suicide run to the dock, but no joy. It wouldn't start again, forcing me to proceed with the tow. Nothing 'blew up', so it might not be a major repair, but I don't trust it anymore. I threw some money at it and did what I said I'd do: run it 'til it didn't run anymore and that's where I am now. So, I'm in the repower market for maximum reliability at sort of the minimum price.

kamikaze,
Is yours an older OMC? My motor is the '87 Johnson 175hp, but the same motor in '85 was called a 235hp. In this timeframe, OMC went from a powerhead rating to a more-accurate propshaft rating, hence the decrease in what's on the cowling. Just curious if it's the same deal. I couldn't tell what motor you had from the little pic.
 
Ches, it sounds like a repairable problem to me...fuel pump or coil...if fixed, you're back to reliability factor as B4...certainly as reliable as buyin' newer, but used even rebuilt motor... ;)...JMHO...
 
Chesapeake724

Yes, it's old iron (1984). And I believe it is true they switch from powerhead to prop shaft HP rating in the mid 80's but I believe the 235 only turned into a 225 after the conversion but I could be wrong. Point being ... the V20 hull is more than capable of handing a 300 + pound motor with a plenty of horsepower hanging from off the stern. From my prespective, just because you can do it doesn't make it the best choice when looking at the bigger picture.

Kamikaze
 
they'll hold twin 140's we know that. stinky and i talked of the twin 225's as the next test. by the way yes the 235 was a 175 later in life and no a 225 is a 200 Looper with larger carbs and jets that's it, a 235 and 175 are cross-flow motors.
 
The last time out, I was running nicely all day. Then halfway through making a little two mile run, there was a gradual decline in rpm's before dying. Tried for a maybe 45 mins. to get it going, and while on the phone w/ TowBoat, it magically fired up.

you've got a fuel delivery problem . . .

was the primer bulb flat when you stalled out?

check, clean and/or replace:

any Fuel Filters, check valves (on the fuel tank), Fuel water Seperators, primer bulbs . . . and/or try running the motor on a seperate 6 gallon fuel tank with a new bulb and hose.
Ches - I'd hate to see you buy a new motor and have the same problem :)
 
Hey Ches,
Find out on your compression and let me know if all else bring it this spring when you come and leave it all hooked up well try to fix it before a removing and take her out on the ICW and tow one of my jetski's as our tow back in boat in case. what ya think?
 
BS,
The way it cut out sounds like it could be fuel delivery, but that seems like the only symptom consistent with that. First day I had it out, I ran it WOT with no problems for longer than I did the day it died. Primer bulb stays full/not collapsed. It might not be a costly fix, but at this point I'm shopping for peace of mind as much as I am for replacement power. ;)

Skools,
That's kool of you. ;D
I dug up the get-it-up-and-running service order from this spring and here were the compression numbers
#1=70, #2=75, #3=70, #4=85, #5=75, #6=80
I've since put only about 10 hours on it.
Actually I was supposed to tow the boat down for vacation with the idea that the we could go see the tall ships in Beaufort by water. We'll just wing it, and thanks for offering to help.
 
hey you have to buy tickets in advance to see them. i saw one of them last yr the one from Pirates of the Caribbean  was here and they said ticket in advance required for the 06 tall ships too.
 
chesapeake724 said:
BS,
The way it cut out sounds like it could be fuel delivery, but that seems like the only symptom consistent with that. First day I had it out, I ran it WOT with no problems for longer than I did the day it died. Primer bulb stays full/not collapsed. It might not be a costly fix, but at this point I'm shopping for peace of mind as much as I am for replacement power. ;)
Click to expand...

This is from CBUZZ . . . .

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin...nce;action=display;num=1046975436;start=10#10

RPM MPH GPH Range MPG
1000 5.3 2.4 119 2.2
2000 8.2 4.5 98 1.8
2500 13.0 6.1 115 2.1
3000 20.5 7.1 156 2.9
3500 28.3 8.2 186 3.4
4000 33.5 10.3 176 3.2
4500 38.6 12.0 174 3.2
5000 43.4 15.6 150 2.8
5400 48.5 20.1 130 2.4

This was on a lake before his T-Top was installed.
 
Getting back to the original thread....
I am on the verge of repowering mine with a 2004 200HP EFI Yamaha. Should know today if I can finalize the deal.
 
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