What Lies Beneath Pt. 1-- Backwards Steering

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Yeah, I finally got her on the water and the steering is backwards, meaning, to go right I have to turn left. Here is a pic of my steering cables:


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I've been looking hi and lo for instruction on how to reverse this, but can only find info about boxes with a cable going in or out, or rack assemblies. Is the fix for mine as simple as swapping the outer cables?

Looks like I have to loosen the cables from the nuts, then unscrew the whole thing from the metal box. What would be the correct approach? As always, thanks in advance for your help. You guys have been great!
 
Just hold the wheel at the bottom like when you're backing down your trailer.

Seriously though, could be reversed at the engine.
 
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would it be easier to reverse the hoses at the ram on the motor?

try to keep fluid loss at a minimum, still might have to bleed afterwards
 
That there be a hynautic hydraulic steering system. Bleeding that system out is a B!##H! I do not envy you to have to messwith that system. And it isn't as simple as just swapping the hoses(yes they are hoses, not cables). You must 1st go in and let the air out of the reservoir, then swap the hoses, next refill the reservoir, repressurize it, open the bleeders at the(if it has the block in the back), open the bleeders at the ram till you get fluid, then go up and start turning the wheel to work the air out, tighten the bleeders back up, and hope you got the bulk of it out. And it isn't just this quick either as this sytem has MANY places for air to get caught. This is why TELEFLEX ditched it when they bought them out. I HIGHLY reccomend taking this system to somebody with the know how to work on it. I've messed with a few, and ended up pulling my hair out before it was over with.
 
whoops yeah release any air pressure at the reservoir... most likely has a schrader valve and a gauge

My res was in my engine room but it could be elsewhere.... When I had to bleed mine because vandals had cut the hoses while cutting wires out to steal for scrap it went pretty well (WAY easier than replacing all the missing wiring) and it was a dual helm but other than my experience all I have heard from others have been horror stories like ferm mentioned.

Here is the bleed procedure
http://www.hypromarine.com/UserFiles/Teleflex products/Hynautic 3-line bleed.pdf
 
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phatdaddy said:
if that's the system with the air tank, major pia

like ferm says , find a tech
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3 lines on the back of the helm is the remote pressurized reservoir hynautic system. Mine was on a seadrive, and I NEVER got it to fully bleed out. I fought it for HOURS, and finally gave up after I got it useable. I worked on a couple others years back, and was able to get them bleed out, but it was still a PITA!
 
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Bleeding that system out is a B!##H! I do not envy you to have to messwith that system. And it isn't as simple as just swapping the hoses(yes they are hoses, not cables). ...I HIGHLY reccomend taking this system to somebody with the know how to work on it. I've messed with a few, and ended up pulling my hair out before it was over with.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Eh I say GO FOR IT..... If you try it and decide it's too much for you THEN take it to someone..... Won't cost you a penny more to have it bled after you try it yourself and who knows you might knock it out easily. Maybe.....
 
smokeonthewater said:
Eh I say GO FOR IT..... If you try it and decide it's too much for you THEN take it to someone..... Won't cost you a penny more to have it bled after you try it yourself and who knows you might knock it out easily. Maybe.....
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I'm with Smoke. If worse comes to worse replace with a cable or Sea star, which you would probably end up doing anyway. Just don't get trapped into taking it somewhere to sit for 2-3 months before some tech who doesn't know anything about it bills you $100 an hour to tear it up.
 
I may have missed part of the story, but, how did it end up that way?. the previous owner lived with it like that?.
 
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I'm with Smoke. If worse comes to worse replace with a cable or Sea star, which you would probably end up doing anyway. Just don't get trapped into taking it somewhere to sit for 2-3 months before some tech who doesn't know anything about it bills you $100 an hour to tear it up.
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^^^^ This! I've been burned by auto mechanics in the past, and I finally found a couple that I can trust to do a good job and not create additional problems or "find" other problems so they can line their pockets.

In my neck of the woods, there are very few boat mechanics, and the GOOD ones I heard about has a backlog of work. I don't mind throwing in the towel, I just want to avoid the frustration you mention.

I'll do some more research and ask a few more questions before I decide to make the plunge. If I do, I'll surely get a few extra hands to help with the bleeding.

Mushman, I just bought her last month...and didn't test drive her. She ran great on muffs and I wound up talking his price WAY down, so I jumped. All I know is he only owned it for a couple of years and had the engine rebuilt. Could be that when they reinstalled the engine, they reversed the hoses.
 
Geez, time flies when life happens!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who pitched in and gave advice or encouragement. A buddy and I swapped the lines and so far so good...she steers properly.

Nope, haven't put her back in the water yet. I'll let y'all know if all hell breaks loose.
 
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