New starter, which wires to hook up?

jjuriga

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So I just got a new starter put in... I have a 1987 Chevy 305. Getting the old one out proved to require patience and some creative thinking - all to keep it out of the marina$. Mission accomplished!

Now... I took some pictures before removing the wires from the old one (attached is one of them). It appears that there are three cables that were hooked up to the one bolt. There is a fourth... smaller, where does that one go? Does that one go to the smaller bolt labeled 'S', or 'R'.

Thanks in advance.
 

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S is for start, r is for resistor. The start wire should be yellow with a red tracer, if you had points, you would utilize the r terminal to bypass the resistor in line while starting the engine. BTW, the S terminal is the one closet to the block if you've already got it on and can't read it
 
thanks everyone! I did hook that little one up to the 'S' based on some reading i did immediately after posting this.

So after getting the wires hooked up, I found yet a fourth wire with a larger eye on it. I have no idea what its for, or where it comes from. It appears it is coming form the opposite side on the engine (from the starter). I know its tough without seeing it, but has anyone heard of four wires being being attached to the main bolt?
 
It is red... thank you very much. So I did all of this, and the engine still wont turn over. I turn the key (power is getting to the starter) and one click. Nothing else... I'm out of ideas! A friend told me that there is a solenoid near or behind the carb... that sometimes they go bad. Any ideas out there?
 
does the click sound like its coming from the starter or the solenoid on the engine? have a friend turn the key switch for you. Use a test light to check the solenoid. Its usually located on top of the engine on the throttle linkage, on older engines its located in front of the starboard manifold.. There will be a red wire, yellow/red wire(same size as the red), then a smaller yellow/red wire and then a black. You should have power to the red wire all the time, check it with the test light or volt meter. Then check to see if you have power going to the small yellow/red wire while you have some one turn the key. If you have power to the small yellow/red wire then check to see if you have power going thru the solenoid to the larger yellow/red wire. If you have power going thru to it, your problem lies in the starter. If you don't have any power going thru to it, remove the larger yellow/red wire from the solenoid and recheck teh solenoid for power going thru it when the key is turned to start. If you have power going thru now, but didn't before, your problem is in the starter.
Now to double check your diagnosis, jump from the red wire to the larger yellow/red wire with a screwdriver, remote starter or jumper wire(key switch off), if the starter spins over now, then you definitely have solenoid or wiring issues. If it doesn't spin over now, you have starter issues.

Now one more thing, watch teh volt gauge on the dash when you turn the key switch one, note the voltage reading, when you turn to start the engine, does the volt gauge fall to zero and all the other gauges drop at the same time? Sounds like a battery problem, or battery cable(connections) issue. Don't forget to check the ground cable. The easier way to check the cables is to use a set of jumper cables, go from teh negative terminal to a good grounding point on the engine, if the starter turns over now, you ground path is bad, then hook up teh positive cable to teh positive terminal and to teh terminal on teh starter, that will tell you if the positive cable is bad. If it still doesn't work, move teh ground cable to the starter housing(not the terminal), see if works now, that will tell you the starter is not grounded to teh engine, remove teh starter , clean the paint off the mounting surface and re install.
 
Wow, thank you both very much for pointing me in the right direction. I'll update this after the weekend... hopefully with a thumbs up.
 
There is also the redneck level test... Turn key to start and have a buddy tap the solenoid with a screwdriver handle... If it starts you have found your problem...

Then there is the parts changer / PM mentality that says just change the slave because it's probably the problem and even if it isn't it probably WILL be soon enough anyhow and plus they are cheap.
 
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