If you could go back in time - where and when ?

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bgreene

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If you could go back in time to have a look around, not change the course of history and return safely ……where and when would you visit ?
 
Me - right here in NJ just before the time of indigenous humans so as to see nature in its original state of incredible balance . No back millions of years - just back about 150,000 years

Imagine the populations of everything from birds to fish and mammals .
Natures own paradise
 
Bgreene returns to the past 150k years ago only to find a more advanced existence of previously unknown indigenous people.

By more advanced I mean:

  • no need for mass transportation
  • use only renewable resources and take only what you need
  • all stay at home moms
  • men hunt all day have sex all night
  • kids are taught life skills and moral values from an early age
  • no obesity
  • crime rate practically non-existent

Me personally I want to go back to 2014 and buy a ****load of bitcoin.
 
Blue_Runner said:
Bgreene returns to the past 150k years ago only to find a more advanced existence of previously unknown indigenous people.

By more advanced I mean:

  • no need for mass transportation
  • use only renewable resources and take only what you need
  • all stay at home moms
  • men hunt all day have sex all night
  • kids are taught life skills and moral values from an early age
  • no obesity
  • crime rate practically non-existent

Me personally I want to go back to 2014 and buy a ****load of bitcoin.
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Good stuff but sorry - it’s NOT a FOR PROFIT opportunity .
Just to look around and return.

Regarding humans in North America recent archeological findings indicate first humans migrated across Alaskan land bridge around 100,000 - 150,000 years ago . First wave may have even died out before many more about 30,000 years ago.

So yes for me - to see our great planet in balance of nature right here in NJ and at the shore would be fine. Waters so clean, air , animals and plants. Wow yes that would do it for me.
Again not back to dinosaur age, grand as that approx 100 million year dynasty was, but it was a much different earth back then.
 
Nessmuk

It’s been a few years since I last read it, but will again pretty soon due to this post. Nessmuk, if you’re not familiar, is a book by a guy when the over hunting/development had started, but hadn’t ruined the northeastern wilderness. There’s an account of one cross country trek that gives a taste of the unspoiled environment that makes me want to go back there in time. It’s an easy read and I think you guys would enjoy it.

My dad would have been 110 this year (he made it to 86) and I recall his stories of Alaska. He was born there in 1911 and moved back to Seattle in 1918. He talked about the boat coming twice a year with supplies and there was plenty of game to feed the family over what they got from the boat and raised in their garden. He said the Salmon were so thick during the runs that you couldn’t hardly get your oars in the water.

Later, he commanded an antiaircraft battery in the Aleutian Islands during the war and would take his M-1 carbine and go out fishing, bringing back enough to feed his men.

Great subject for a post - Thanks
 
scook said:
It***8217;s been a few years since I last read it, but will again pretty soon due to this post. Nessmuk, if you***8217;re not familiar, is a book by a guy when the over hunting/development had started, but hadn***8217;t ruined the northeastern wilderness. There***8217;s an account of one cross country trek that gives a taste of the unspoiled environment that makes me want to go back there in time. It***8217;s an easy read and I think you guys would enjoy it.

My dad would have been 110 this year (he made it to 86) and I recall his stories of Alaska. He was born there in 1911 and moved back to Seattle in 1918. He talked about the boat coming twice a year with supplies and there was plenty of game to feed the family over what they got from the boat and raised in their garden. He said the Salmon were so thick during the runs that you couldn***8217;t hardly get your oars in the water.

Later, he commanded an antiaircraft battery in the Aleutian Islands during the war and would take his M-1 carbine and go out fishing, bringing back enough to feed his men.

Great subject for a post - Thanks
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Wow awesome Scook thanks for sharing .
I read that Thomas Jefferson had made reference to striped bass being so thick as if you could walk across their backs to the other side of the Chesapeake ! But that was WELL AFTER the impact of humans

Yes sir as I posted to see nature in pristine natural unspoiled condition right here a few thousand years before humans . From Manhattan Island to Cape May - completely pure .
Now all I need is a time travel machine
 
The video worked.

I’d go for a couple of hundred years. The indigenous tribes did a little taming of the environment, but I think a majority of it was pretty unspoiled.

Even in the 1940’s when Grand Coulee Dam was completed on the Columbia River, the Salmon runs were spectacular (even with over harvesting). Dad said it made him sick to watch film of the masses of Salmon roiling the water at the base of the dam, finding no way up to their spawning beds. Whole genetic lines of Salmon were extincted in one swoop.

I have the boat and all the gear, but 4 times out this year with my very experienced fishing buddy and not ONE bite. Hoping for improvement, but it’s pretty sad.

I envy you guys on the Atlantic coast - multiple species and a lot safer access to the ocean than out here on the Pacific.

Sorry to be such a downer.
 
All jokes aside, I spend a ton of time in the woods during winter exploring and on the lake during the summer. Artifacts are everywhere around here. I daydream about how the land looked whenever I'm hunting for native american artifacts. The wildlife that lived in those very hills must have been amazing. Picking up an arrowhead that is thousands of years old, being the first human to touch it in so many years. I think about what those people looked like. The times they had and how they did things. Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing those stories scook, keep this thread going!
 
scook said:
The video worked.

I’d go for a couple of hundred years. The indigenous tribes did a little taming of the environment, but I think a majority of it was pretty unspoiled.

Even in the 1940’s when Grand Coulee Dam was completed on the Columbia River, the Salmon runs were spectacular (even with over harvesting). Dad said it made him sick to watch film of the masses of Salmon roiling the water at the base of the dam, finding no way up to their spawning beds. Whole genetic lines of Salmon were extincted in one swoop.

I have the boat and all the gear, but 4 times out this year with my very experienced fishing buddy and not ONE bite. Hoping for improvement, but it’s pretty sad.

I envy you guys on the Atlantic coast - multiple species and a lot safer access to the ocean than out here on the Pacific.

Sorry to be such a downer.
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We’ve seen how careful environmental protections CAN reinvigorate nature .
The North American Indians actually did make an impact of course on much smaller scale.
Once they stopped being migratory and set up permanent dwellings, farming, and harvesting game in their regions.

We know Indians have linked nature with spirits.
There’s something very unique about remaining wild lands that were NEVER obliterated and remain as have always been. In Washington State, on the edge of our only rain forest in North America - Olympic National Park there is such a place …….I had a unique somewhat spiritual experience there.
Years later while watching a nature TV show, the explorer commented of feeling a special way in a few of our remaining completely unspoiled places. My wife said to me WOW that’s like what you said back in Washington State !!!!!
 
Perspective :

The dinosaurs had an exceptionally great run - about 100 million years of successful life on our planet, before asteroid impact. We think of the dinosaur age as somehow brief but it was a very very long period of earth time .

Humans …..we’ve been around for about 6 million years and only so called “ modern “ for a few thousand . Impact to our planet approaching catastrophic over only the past few hundred years. Massive largely uncontrolled population growth, enormous and toxic waste generation, and insatiable demand to exploit all natural resources .

So yeh, just to go back a mere 150,000 years right here in New Jersey, look around and return would be heaven to me
 
The eagles around here have had an amazing recovery since the effects of DDT have diminished. They’re all over the place.

My wife and I were as the beach a couple Christmases ago and found some kind of sea bird fouled in one of those little crab traps you cast with a fishing pole. We cut it loose and had it wrapped in a coat, since it was obviously injured, made a call to the wildlife rescue folks and waited, and waited for a response. The bird was getting a little rambunctious (clearly not appreciating what we were doing for it) and finally it was obvious we needed to turn it loose. It took off hobbling (like Festus from the old Gums one show), just got to the water and an Eagle nailed it. Of course then we heard back from the wildlife lady, told her the story and she said “ oh well, merry Christmas Eagle”. Not so funny for the injured bird, but the eagle didn’t waste any of it - we found the carcass coming back and it was picked clean.
 
I would go back about 2000 years or so. I would want to see and hear Jesus. Everything everyone else has said is great, nature and all, but lets not forget who it is that created it. To look at my savior, to hear him speaking. Heaven on earth.

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Destroyer said:
I would go back about 2000 years or so. I would want to see and hear Jesus. Everything everyone else has said is great, nature and all, but lets not forget who it is that created it. To look at my savior, to hear him speaking. Heaven on earth.

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Destroyer - no need to instruct us on what we need to remember etc.
This thread is just to share what you’d like to see from the past - no lessons for us needed.

Some of us may not share your religious beliefs so advising us “ what we need to remember “ about Jesus does not fit us all.
 
I would like to go back to my hometown about 60 years ago. I remember it as Mayberry on the beach

I think it was Joni Mitchell who said you don t know what you got till it s gone
 
bgreene said:
Destroyer - no need to instruct us on what we need to remember etc.
This thread is just to share what you’d like to see from the past - no lessons for us needed.

Some of us may not share your religious beliefs so advising us “ what we need to remember “ about Jesus does not fit us all.
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I'm sorry, but who the heck do you think you are to question what I would like to see and hear? You came up with some bs "I'd like to see unspoiled nature" thing, and that's all fine and good, but I'm not allowed to say what I would like to see/hear? The question was if we could go back in time, where or when. This is my answer of what I would like to see and hear. I am not preaching to you or to anyone else.

I DO NOT CARE if you or anyone else does or does not share what I believe in. I believe in God, and that Jesus Christ is my savior. That is MY BELIEF. HOW DARE YOU attack me, criticize me for my religious beliefs!!!

Lay off the personal attacks Greene.

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Oh boy destroyer ….. point simply to state what you’d want to see without the “ let’s not forget who made it all instructional “

Calm down
 
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