Floor Drain Elbow Broke (@#$%^&)

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randlemanboater

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My floor drains were not draining well with the check valves I had put in so I was going to try another configuration with them to see if they would work better.  

When I took the starboard hose loose from the boat side, the elbow in the floor, broke.

I know people have had this happen before, what did you do?

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1st thing I'd do is be glad it didn't happen at sea from vibration, etc...then I'd check the other side to see if it's about to happen there...then I'd replace both sides w/ larger drains... ;) ...
 
Re: Floor Drain Elbow Broke (@#$%^&amp

I could tell mine were brittle and breaking so I took them out and spent some time considering what to do. One option is to order the 90 degree ones that Hammer used (from TH I think). I preferred stainless but they are all too long but I finally found some short model from Attwood that are only 2 1/2" long top to bottom (about the same as from the top of the old one to the bottom of the elbow), so with the hose bent tight, it's slightly longer but seems to drain well.

No check valves so water still pops up when rocking and the thru hull dips below for a sec but it goes back out. The plus is that these are stainless, the drawback is that the tops are more mushroomed than the OEM ones, so not every drop goes down, a tiny amount of water will sit around the drain (maybe a 1-2 tablespoons), since it's higher than the floor.

Here is a link, this is the only place I could find short barbed SS ones and if you click on the images you can see the dimensions etc. One other thought was to hack off the barb then the threads are only 1" long or so, and just tread this into the elbow you took out (the good part). That may work, but wanting to get on the water this past weekend I didn't want to experiment only to find the threads didn't match or something. In fact you should try this and let me know if it works ;D ;D

http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/p-...thru-hulls-barbed-short-length-1-id-hose.aspx

Good luck!

Scott


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Let me know what you go with RB - I need to replace mine too. They are the plastic grey ones just like in your pic.
 
Randleman. mine both broke as well and I could not find a replacement part at all and I tried everywhere.
I finally found a boat building suplier. They state on the website that they only sell to boat companies, but when I called I spoke to a women and she hooked me up. SInce that time, two more members picked up the same type of ball floor drain. When or if you call, they may say no, but just drop my name and say a few guys recently bought some. They will only sell two at a time.
I know you wernt to happy with the valve drain set up, but trust me on this one, these work great.

http://www.thmarine.com/
 
Here's a pic. of my floor drains. They have a ball inside to prevent water from coming up onto the deck. I get zero water on the deck.
But if you want to do it right, "I didnt", you might want to knotch out the deck a bit. The drain has a lip, so water will sit around the drain, if not knotched out. The lip is only about 1/8 high.
BUT whatever you do, you MUST order the drain with a 90 degree, a 45 wont work because of teh height of the floor and hull. The 45 will hit the hull.

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I also removed one inline valve because it was holding in to much sand. She drains fine now, and water doesnt come up through the hull when I'm out.
 
Randleman, when i first got my V, I didnt like how the through hulls were set at the water line. It made me nervas. So I went overboard on the drain set up, just so I wouldnt sink. ;D
The deck drain has a ball in it. It lets water flow out great when washing down the deck...or a large wave ;D
For the price of two deck drains, I think they charged me maybe 60 bucks I think.
now the hose opening is bigger, so you will need to reduce from 1 1/2 down to 1" to fit the through-hull scupper, but they sell them at any hardware or marine store.
 
Here's a pic. of the coragated 1" hose I used and you can see the 1 1/2 to 1" reducer i Have on.
No wyou cant see it in the picture, but there is a slight incline in the hose. The 90 dregree deck drain does sit lower then the scupper, but, this is the only type of drain that I could find. I had the same drain as you and checked everywhere, even pool stores and couldnt find that part. ...90.

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Thanks for posting those pics Hammer. Now I see what you mean by the floor being in the way. On the V21 the floor isn't a problem at all, the thru hull must just be higher on the hull. Although they still used that same 2 piece impossible to find 90 degree elbow thingy.

BR you can likely use a setup similar to mine since the floor isn't in the way. Wish I took some pics of it but forgot the camera last weekend when I did the install.
 
I am going out to mow the grass. Then fix the flat tire on my sons bike.....Oh, you mean about the drain.....I think I'll order me some of those and install em next time I go to the coast.
 
Gator, yes pics would be cool I'd like to see how the stainless looks in the V21. Did you access this through the rod box or rear hatch?

The port side on mine has been changed before. It has a regular through hull on it and allows the standing water around the lip as you all have described.

Hammer, great pix ;D
 
I had the same problem on my Aquasport when refitting the deck drains recently. Not liking the price of the off the shelf options or the modifications need to refit some of the replacement units I found. I came up with a fix that works well, cost a couple of bucks and doesn't require any refitting modifications to what you already have. I found out that the gray fitting shown in the picture is specific to Marine and RV applications (Shower drain I think) given that it has a hose barb on the one end. However, Home Depot carries the same item in the electrical department in a sleeve vice barb configuration for only a couple of bucks. I took the sleeve and applied my 4" grander to rough up the exterior and make my own barbs. I then applied 5200 to the inside of the hose and two stainless hose clamps to make sure It will never separate again. Screwed in a shiny new SS deck drain off Ebay for 5.00 and I was good to go. Looks great and works identical to the original and didn't cost a fortune to boot.

Kamikaze
 
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