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willy

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Got the call from the marina today, she's ready.
Went down, the mechanic happened to be there so got a chance to talk to him.
Carbs were completely rebuilt, in line filter done.
But for you fellows who own a JohnnyRude a little info, part of my problem was under the fly wheel which the mechanic pulled. Seems that OMC in their infinite wisdom uses a coating on the stator area, that coating had dried out and almost melted, least that is how it looks. The plasticky looking crap got under my timing arm and was binding it up and not allowing it to move its full range.
He cleaned that all out to.
Results - perfect 750-800 rpm idle. Runs like a top, took her for a nice long run.
Fishes beware, Willy is in town!
 
Great!! You all set now! Mine is over getting the fuel injectors cleaned as we speak Then I be all set!
 
RWilson may be going out with me on Thursday. If we do get out I will get some pics then, now I have to focus on getting my trailer better set up or a new one and look out NJ Get Together here I come
 
willy said:
RWilson may be going out with me on Thursday. If we do get out I will get some pics then, now I have to focus on getting my trailer better set up or a new one and look out NJ Get Together here I come
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i'm good for Thursday, got my wife to reschedule her thing from Thursday evening.....Will give you a call tomorrow.
 
Willy:

I would be suspicious that your motor gotten hot in the past? The only time I have seen a OMC stator coating melt is due to heat. I got really old junk that just is still just fine ;-)

Kamiakze
 
Kamikazi I really don't know, engine shows no sign of ever overheating, mechanic says he has seen it on the OMC's many times where edges of the stuff flakes off and sits on top of the engine under the fly wheel. I asked him if it from over heating and he said no, just from sitting there on top for a long time. He showed some of it to me and it does not look like melted material, more like a gunky plasticy stuff which is probably gunky due to the lube I shot up in there to free the timing arm.. Not much of it but enough to get between the timing arm and whatever it moves on and bind it.
Ozzie I made the call not to go today, 16-19 knot winds with 30 knot gusts. I am glad i did as friends said it was a disaster out there today.
I am going out tomorrow with my brother, I asked Rob but he got an invite to go out on a 52 Foot Sport Fisher on a 6 pack charter.
Don't understand his thinking on that, but I will miss him!
 
I think the key here is the stator itself may have gotten hot, could have had an issue with the voltage regulator, or with trying to charge a dead battery that could have caused the stator to get hot enough to melt the potting
 
kamikaze said:
Willy:

I would be suspicious that your motor gotten hot in the past? The only time I have seen a OMC stator coating melt is due to heat. I got really old junk that just is still just fine ;-)

Kamiakze
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The stuff Willy is talking about is teh potting material, and it is VERY common for it to come out of teh stator of the 200/225 loopers. And I do mean VERY common. I don't think I've seen one yet more than 3-4 years old without it starting to drip out of it. It's not from overheating, it is just the design of them and the cheap potting material. I've had them on engines that haven't run in years begin to drip just from time, so I wouldn't worry about it. I think I remember asking Willy in one of his other posts if the timing arm was moving because it is a really common problem for this to happen. I think there is some coming out of teh engine I got from Bradford, and that engine doesn't hardly have any run time since he had just replaced that stuff.
 
THEFERMANATOR said:
The stuff Willy is talking about is teh potting material, and it is VERY common for it to come out of teh stator of the 200/225 loopers. And I do mean VERY common. I don't think I've seen one yet more than 3-4 years old without it starting to drip out of it. It's not from overheating, it is just the design of them and the cheap potting material. I've had them on engines that haven't run in years begin to drip just from time, so I wouldn't worry about it. I think I remember asking Willy in one of his other posts if the timing arm was moving because it is a really common problem for this to happen. I think there is some coming out of teh engine I got from Bradford, and that engine doesn't hardly have any run time since he had just replaced that stuff.
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Is there any solution to keep this from reoccurring?...:head:
 
willy said:
Ozzie I made the call not to go today, 16-19 knot winds with 30 knot gusts. I am glad i did as friends said it was a disaster out there today.
I am going out tomorrow with my brother, I asked Rob but he got an invite to go out on a 52 Foot Sport Fisher on a 6 pack charter.
Don't understand his thinking on that, but I will miss him!
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Good call on the cancelation!!...high wind NO FUN!!...hope ya'll do well today...:clap:
 
reelapeelin said:
Is there any solution to keep this from reoccurring?...:head:
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Not really. I know the stator on my EVINRUDE before I sold it was starting to just begin to drip down in a spot, and it had never been overheated. It's just one of those nature of teh beast type deals that those with OMC's live with. It doesn't seem to hurt anything other than it will cause teh timing pick-up to stick.
 
THEFERMANATOR said:
Not really. I know the stator on my EVINRUDE before I sold it was starting to just begin to drip down in a spot, and it had never been overheated. It's just one of those nature of teh beast type deals that those with OMC's live with. It doesn't seem to hurt anything other than it will cause teh timing pick-up to stick.
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I know it'd COST big time, but if a guy just wanted to, would a new stator correct it...surely Bombardier would have upgraded it...
 
reelapeelin said:
I know it'd COST big time, but if a guy just wanted to, would a new stator correct it...surely Bombardier would have upgraded it...
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No, the new ones will do it as well. BRP is outsourcing the manufacturing of the older parts to CDI for electrical from what I have seen. And CDI is what I had on mine.
 
Thats exactly what the mechanic said Ferm, he has seen it dozens of times.
I ran the boat again today, see the fishing post, it is running fabulous. 29-31 cruise at 38-3900 rpm. Trimmed up a little with two big guys and a full tank all the gear and coolers that 200 Evinrude gets that heavy boat right up on plane and max's out rpm at 5400-5500 rpm.
I think a 225 would be perfect for her but from what I hear the gas use would be much higher. Right now I have run her fishing all day today, and we were running a lot, for about three hours last week, a little high speed running trying to blow it out the week before and the same for about twenty minutes the day I launched her. Still have not hit 3/4 on the tank yet. I am happy with the economy as she is. My buddy with the 25 Maycraft and a single 4 stroke 225 Yammie goes through a lot of gas with his rig, it would kill me to have that kind of fuel economy now, gas is $4 a gallon at my marina and higher other locations nearby.
 
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