Paul, as much as I respect and admire the loyalty that's not necessary. I get far more Out of Wellcraft 20.com than I have ever given! Just this year alone I have not spent one red cent on a mechanic to help get my new to me boat in shipshape for the season. I've had a fuel delivery issue, an overheating issue, and let's not forget the not so minor issue of me overlooking the fact that the primer ball was in the battery compartment and quite possibly blowing myself up hehehe... and you guys still let me hang around here with the common Knowledge that I no longer own a V 20 ha ha . But seriously I found one of those Reels in my neighborhood on craigslist and I'm going to quite possibly buy it tomorrow afternoon. I will definitely let you know how I like it