Anyone shot a CZ?

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I'm in the market for a 9mm, not too interested in the polymer guns( I like steel) and have been researching the CZ75, they have a good reputation, but none of the ranges around here have one to shoot, any of ya'll had any experiance with one?
 
The current generation of CZ handguns seems to be much better quality than in the past. Like you, I was never a fan of the polymer handguns. I purchased a Glock 9mm back in the late 80's when they were first becoming popular. I brought it to the range, put about 2dozen rounds through it, boxed it up and returned it to the gun shop I bought it from. I took a loss on it, but went with a SigSauer P226. Very, very happy with that purchase. I did look at some CZ's, but didn't like the feel and what seemed to be sloppy machining tolerences. I haven't checked out the newest generation CZ's personally other than online reading and a couple of friends good reviews. But, most of what I read and hear of them are quite favorable.
 
CZ has always had a good rep as far as durablity and overall design characteristics. There fit and finish has never been up to par with several other manufacturers pieces. They are of similar quality to Taurus Arms as far as overall production qualities, in fact Taurus as of the recent years has surpassed many of the other foreign made arms in overall quality.
That being said they make a fine durable arm that can often be bought at a reduced price. They are also often the basis for custom firearms and with those modifications can make a superior weapon for personal defense and/or competition.
Glock is a diffrent animal all together, like CB said they have had some minor issues in the distant past but were then a new firearm concept and first and foremost a military arm and serve extremely well in that capacity.
Over the past decade their weapons have improved dramaticaly to suit the police market of which they now are far and away the hands down major market share holder.
And it is not just because of price, their durability under adverse conditions is phenominal, there accuracy excellent and their durabilityand many designs have put the other manufactures on their heels.
I have spent thousands of rounds thru every manufactures weapons as the Range Master for our PD and as tester for both the county and our PD setting up trials for weapons procurement and have made the decisions for those purchases. Lives were always on the line.
Fifteen years ago Sig Sauer P226 and smaller variants for the diffrent uses in the PD's was far and away the weapon of choice. They were then and are today one of the best quality firearms you can purchase for any handgun purpose.
That being said there are numerous other weapons the past decade which provide as good if not better performance, Heckler and Koch, Glock in particular.
Personaly I carried for many years a Colt Government model which had some very competent work done to it to improve it for PD carry purposes. In the hands of a man that practices and who is well trained it is by far the best personal defense/close range anti personnel weapon available when selected in 45 Caliber. Today it is available as a stock weapon from the factory with unmatched capability from numerous makers.
But there is a caveat, these weapons are designed to be carried cocked and locked and unless you become intimate with this form of weapon carry it can be a safety nightmare and its image can be unnerving for the uninformed.
Today for a carry weapon I have one of the ten shot 45cal Glocks, it is small and easy to carry, incredibly accurate and reliable as a hammer. I removed the factory plastic sight which have always been problematic and installed a set of good three dot night sights and am very comfortable in meeting any close encounter with it. I highly recommend it. They are easy to work on and parts are available everywhere. In a good caliber 45 highly recommended for man sized shooters it is a very hard to surpass weapon and for the money a good deal.
I would recommend that in a close encounter situation for which I trained hundreds of officers for three decades, several of which had the misfortune to have had to apply those techniques, you spend the extra money on a good quality weapon from a major manufacturer in a good caliber with 9MM being the smallest exceptable, and practice practice practice practice. If you can afford to play and buy numerous handguns to play with God bless you, I have been very fortunate in that regard due to competition and desire to seek the ultimate by all means get the CZ and anything else that tickels your fancy, but alway remember the very tried and centuries old saying that is as true today as ever.
BEWARE THE MAN WITH ONE GUN
 
Oh and CB, I will meet you at the Maytag guys house at dawn and we will make him dance for awhile before we run him out of town and confiscate his Sea Ox:beer:
 
thanks for the info, I'm looking at a 9 for punching holes in paper, I've got all the other needs taken care of thanks to Colt(& WIlson), and Springfield. I have a Hi Power that I enjoy shooting at the range, its in great shape, and I'd like to keep it that way( have you seen what a high power is selling for now?!!!!), I'd like to have soemthing that I can run a lot of ammo thru on a regular basis( the range is less that 3 miles form my house). I've seen the CZ being used more and more in the limited and production catagory in compitition( advertising and sponsership works), I know they are far from stock even in these classes, but they seem to be right there with every other major manufacture in the end. I looked at their new model (SP-01) and liked it, but I was not too crazy about the look of the finish, its done nicely, just a little heavy( nothing looks better than deep blueing)> I also looked at the armorlight AR-24(CZ copy), it looks about the same, both being priced about the same. It seems like everything out there is priced between$525-$650. I've shot a SIg, not doubting their quality, I just didn't like the feel. I'm not looking for a primary weapon, just looking for decent quality guns to run some ammo thru. Any other suggestions are appreciated
 
If you only want it for "running ammo thru" why don't you use a .22?

Cheep to shoot but you still have to use good form to hit your target. The handgun that I shoot the most rounds out of is my Ruger Mark III.
 
I have an Italian made Beretta 92F 9mm that is a really sweet shooting gun. I have never had any problem with it and I have run 1000's of rounds though it since 1988.

The Glock .40 I carry @ work took some getting use to, but I like it now. The best part about it is not the shooting, but its light weight when carrying it 12 hours a day.

Most of my department switched to Sig's last year. During my 2 day firearms in-service training week before last, the armorer had to come out and fix two of them, the take down lever breaks during shooting. It will still shoot, but the free swinging lever would cause the gun to get stuck in the holster. The range officers said they have had several others break so far.

And the guy next to me had at least 10 misfires, I had none.

Not very good for building confidence with the new gun/holster combo. I'm glad I stayed with the Glock.
 
allready have a 22, got Ruger MKIII, got it too hot the other day from shooting and the rear sight fell out of the dovetail, took it home and steaked it in place, gun never missed a beat, kept on shooting, I emptied a box of 550 that day.

i did see a Smith 910 for a reasonable price, but it was in 40, I would prefer teh 40 over 9 if it was gong to be for defensive purposes, but I want one for targets( the paper kind), you cant beat 9mm ammo price for a center fire.

I have been lookig at the 92 also, just haven't found one in the right price, people are asking "new" prices for used ones

I have run across a couple of deals, just not what I'm looking for at this time. I found a Dan Wesson 357 with three barrels, all the tools in pretty good shape for $750 asking( I think he might take $600), and found a Colt Trooper II in great shpe for $425. I've got to limit myself, or my shooting habbit will eat into my boat habbit
 
Only look for an Italian made Beretta made in the 80's, the US made ones are POS from that time. I have a 98ish 96F that is US and works good, but it is not as nice as the Italian one.
 
Spare - When I got my Mark III I went to sight it in and it was shooting all over the paper at 50'. I was thinking that I just suck at shooting and the problem was me. Later that night I was cleaning the gun on my workbench and touched the front sight and it moved about 1/8". I put some locktight on the screw (after cleaning the threads) and went back to the range. Shoots like a dream now.

K
 
yeah, that ruger wont win any contest for fit and finish, its also the hardest gun to dissasemble and reasemble I've ever messed with, but it shure is fun to shoot, and it will keep on shooting til you're tired of shooting
 
Sounds like a CZ might work for you if you can find one at agood price. For what you want to do though you will need a durable weapon with as many rounds as you shoot. I would stick with the quality arms and find a good used deal. Watch the Dan wessons, owned one in the early eighties with the interchangeable barrels. Could be a pain in the arse to use the feeler guage and set the cylinder gap right and still would spit lead because the timing arm for them was made with a wear prone metal.
If you are considering a revolver for this practice I would recommend you pick up a Smith and Wesson in 9MM. It should be cheap on the used market and they were well made and shot well once you find the right ammo, as any gun is.
As far as the comments earlier about the Sigs take down lever it sounds like they had a bad production run with that piece. It happens to all manufactures. One big difference with Sig is they will fix it right away and pay for any refits needed, they stand behind their product.
There are millions of them in police duty just here in the U.S and there are many like the 226's we had that were sold used after 16 years of use and abuse to another department and I guarantee you they are still shooting the crap out of them.
I was an armorer for the Sigs and they are made well.
If you want to see something really nice take a look at the older German made Sigs like the 225 in 9mm I carried for years and still own. Very sweet with great triggers and high quality steel and maching.
 
I got my Sig in the late 80's as I mentioned and have to say that I have never once had any adverse issues with it. Never once failed me. :clap:
 
willy said:
As far as the comments earlier about the Sigs take down lever it sounds like they had a bad production run with that piece. It happens to all manufactures. One big difference with Sig is they will fix it right away and pay for any refits needed, they stand behind their product.
There are millions of them in police duty just here in the U.S and there are many like the 226's we had that were sold used after 16 years of use and abuse to another department and I guarantee you they are still shooting the crap out of them.
I was an armorer for the Sigs and they are made well.
If you want to see something really nice take a look at the older German made Sigs like the 225 in 9mm I carried for years and still own. Very sweet with great triggers and high quality steel and maching.
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I had only heard good things about Sig's all my life so I was very suprised when I saw the failures at the range.

I should mention that there were 25 other people shooting Sig's with no problems that day. And I think we have roughly 450 people carrying them with only 8-10 failures..........not bad really.

Anytime you order that many of anything at one time, a few are bound to have a flaw or 2.
 
I want a dasiy like LUMBER!!!!!!!!!!!

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